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Re: The 'Nardil Smell' do you have it?/Mav, others

Posted by stargazer2 on November 20, 2007, at 9:47:42

In reply to Re: The 'Nardil Smell' do you have it?, posted by mav27 on November 20, 2007, at 6:33:02

Mav,
that can be the sign of a urinary tract infection and is called urinary urgency. Do you have any burning or other symptoms when you try to urinate? I would advise you to get a urine culture, just to be sure and if it is just a side effect of nardil that is a really annoying one. Do you literally have to go every 10 minutes throughout the day?

Nardil has very unusual side effects and so different for everyone on it.

If you are the person whose BP is always around 90 or 100 diastolically (on the bottom), you may need something to help control it a bit. The best number for the diastolic reading is 60-80 for optimal control and to avoid any excessive cardiac wear and tear. I would not want another medication for hypertension to increase the dizziness, for sure.

Best of luck to all of us since Nardil is such a help but it definately has its drawbacks since it was reformulated by Pfizer in 2003 for no good reason (economics probably, certainly not user satisfaction since it worked fine). They just wanted to mess with what worked so well for so many and didn't test the new version on depressed people (DUH) Why test it on healthy individals (go figure), I thought the people at Pfizer were highly educated(?) and were doing the work for first and foremost patient results. I must really be naive. The previous version of Nardil (pre-2003) had much more user tolerability, with almost no side effects, at much lower doses of efficacy.

If you are interested in the story of the Nardil reformulation, Google 'nardil activsim'. Former users had disasterous results with the new, 2003 version. Many found themselves with immediate decompensation with high episodes of hospitalization, where previously many were well controlled on Nardil for more than 20 years. I took it in 1989 (my 2nd med ever, no Prozac even then) and I loved the results as they just made me feel "normal' with no obvious side effects. I would give anything to feel that way again, but i have to be thankful for it to be doing "something" although I had a relapse at 45 mg and had to go to 60 mg. I hope it continues to work, as with depression like mine, you are never out of the woods.

Many drug manufacturers only think of their bottom line, not the impact on patient results.
But at least it still works for depression despite it's high side effect profile and strict dietary and medication restrictions.

Stargazer

Good luck/


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