Posted by yxibow on July 22, 2008, at 20:13:42
In reply to Re: Somatoform condition » yxibow, posted by Marty on July 22, 2008, at 10:15:56
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> Hi Jay,
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> Thanks for sharing your story.
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> >I did have a mysterious fever slightly more than one year the disorder started, for a year. It was retrograde (less than 100) and I did have bouts of sub-operable tonsillar activity, but I have a lower than normal body temperature anyhow.
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> The same happened to me also.. for one year. I wonder if having our immune system 'On' for so long wouldn't have induced some brain plasticity that would have started our disease because of all our predispositions (neurological/enviromental/psychological). Interactions between the immune system and brain are pretty complex and don't expect a general Pdoc or GP base is treatment on a immune disorder hypothesis .. that said I heard some were trying experimental stuff with antibiotics and other immune system 'modulator'. It's pretty harsh and often induce depression.Yes, I have read in some magazine that we get that there are possible links between the immune system and depression, through a complicated set of processes. Basically the immune system fights off an infection and in turn our own interferons and other agents can develop depression in some patients.
There have been experiments though with interferon to see if it actually helps depression as I recall -- I don't remember. I believe this was in Science News but my mind is fuzzy on that.
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> >A number of diagnoses have "NOS" after them because they just don't fit in a box.
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> I seem to fall in that NOS box too but still has a couple year to go before it's officially Dx. Social Phobia NOS mainly because it comes and go.Diagnoses aren't perfect and they shouldn't be taken as a label. Focusing on the label for the diagnosis just makes things worse psychologically. But yes, things don't always fit in neat packages in the DSM, DSM-V due to come out eventually. So you're right, a number of people are diagnosed as "NOS".
> >Today Seroquel maintains my "functionality". I am a bright individual, I will not be modest about that,
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> I can sense that and so here's an interesting question: how do you keep your intellect at this level of functionnality ? I don't think your at your full potential but you seems less fogged than me (actually my intellect run at about 65%)...Well I won't take that as an insult, but yes, there is a mind waiting to be unleashed. It doesn't mean I have lost it, I am still very smart. And of course discussions of intelligence naturally will bring up thoughts possibly of others on the board that they don't meet up to a standard. IQ is really only one way of measuring things and people are skilled in one thing or another. Some are skilled at a lot of things, and I tend to fall between the middle of that. I am capable of understanding a number of things in the computer field, but I am not especially a high level computer coder, for example. So everybody has their own specialty and reason for it.
How's your memory and executive functions ? For about 2 weeks, Tianeptine eliminated the fog and memory problems .. I had forgot what it was like to be at this level (IQ between 145 and 160 depending on the test) and I realized how much more pleasurable my life was when I could play with my intellect... now that I'm back into the fog it makes me sad and I find the whole thing cruel, but I was please to know that my brain wasn't broken by the disorder and all the meds that I took and so there's hope that I get my brain back again in the future.Unfortunately tianeptine is a European medication, I don't know where you live. Like all medications, taking a pill won't necessarily make you smarter or reduce the fog or cure all panaceas. In fact, on the topic of "cure" -- most medications are palleatives. You have to continue to take the "cocktail" or polypharmacy which is the technical term to receive benefits for what is a moving target, a biochemical, genetic imbalance.
There are exceptions, simple infections can possibly be "cured" by antibiotics (yet 90% of the time they are viral which means that really only obvious cases, febrile, presenting pus, etc, should be treated aggressively) but there is an overuse of them which means more and more antibiotics have to be discovered before we run out of them.
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> >I am not nor have I ever been psychotic. Can any of these things be described as psychoses?
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> Well, as much as being color blind if you ask me. (No)Of course -- about 9-11% of males are color blind, and there are multiple varieties of it.
> >And there may be some OCD in it as well as I have a history of OCD
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> Which kind ? What was your symptoms ?It varied a lot but the trigger was puberty and the discovery that I was gay. I had magical thinking that mm... well anyhow I won't go into details but that people at school could think I was fantasizing about men. There was a hoarding phase.
And finally there was a washing and showering phase which started with the "ick" thought of semen and eventually descended into all things toilet related, and that there was a spreading ick and touching doorknobs, and people and dropping things on the ground and all the rest eventually led to 7 hour showers by the time it was so bad and my hands were white.
I was hospitalized voluntarily for 2 months and was in a treatment program afterwards. From the treatment program I learned through CBT to manage my disorder and it descended from a YBOCS of about 39 to nearly 11, which is basically what everyone has to an extent about all things related. So that part of things disappeared really.
But it has come into the field again as mm... not exactly what doctors would describe as "Pure O", but I have a "full head syndrome" -- in essence when I get really anxious, random thoughts, words I've heard or seen flow through my mind and annoy me and distract me from what I am concentrating on. Its hard to "just let it flow" -- because it will just flow. So basically the tide ebbs and flows. Pure O would be exclusively one thought over and over and that isn't what is happening.>
> Have a nice day,
> /\/\artyYou too -- thanks for your interest in what is happening and going on with me, and I hope you also are receiving the treatment you deserve and the life that you wish.
-- tidings and cheers
Jay
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