Posted by desolationrower on January 25, 2009, at 11:41:01
In reply to Re: Experiences with salvia » linkadge, posted by Garnet71 on January 25, 2009, at 7:40:58
Salvia can be really great. Basically, by activating the kappa opioid receptor, it causes the immediate actions. The longer-lasting positive effects are the rebound.
Its not 'enjoyable' per se. But it makes for ao very interesting experience. The initial thing i feel is a fear and lostsness. This turns into a very distorted sense of reality, of lack of boundaries, etc. Slowly the world starts to make sense again, and things become very amusing, although in a colder way than the giggly sense of being high. I think its a good experience, it helps with anxiety because i face fear straight on, and come out having beaten it. Someone said it is the feeling of dying and being reborn i htink that has some truth.
in general, KOR antagonists are antidepressants. But salvia is suhc a short halflife, its like you force all the depression into a 10 minute period, and then theres no left for the next day or two.
btw, the Kappa opioid system is basically in opposition with the mu system, and activation of one desensitizes it while it sensitzes the other. taking heroin desensitizes mu receptors. So it feels great for a bit, and then you feel depressed as the mus become desensitized (and KOR become more sensitive). taking salvia is the reverse (and, btw, makes it sort of anti-addictive. Even though its a very interesting experience, and one that make me feel good afterward, i have to make myself smoke it.)
for much more info, http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=28350&st=0
btw, it might be on its way to being scheduled. Nothing i hate so much as the drug war and the shltheads who want to keep their children 'safe'.
-d/r
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