Posted by Lebrada on May 21, 2009, at 19:32:19
In reply to Re: NARDIL, new user..please help!!, posted by 2learnhelp on May 17, 2009, at 11:12:24
> > okay well i have a resistant 'agitated depression' and
> > no antidepressant has worked so far......
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> > i am currently taking:
> > 3mg xanax xr
> > 1800mg neurontin
> > 60mg inderal
> > 45mg nardil (just started)
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> > my doctor gave me 45mg nardil cause the 6mg EMSAM patch was wayyyy too expensive and didnt seem to help much besides make me more agitated..
> >
> > okayyy soooo i have 3 questions....How long should nardil usually take to work with peoples experiences on here????, i took 6mg EMSAM for 10 days then switched to nardil yesterday, Would that in theory make the nardil work any faster???? .and also Has anyone 'these days' had nardil work for them????
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> > and also i dont want negative feedback on how nardil doesnt work now...i just want "happy" and positive feedback if possible!!!
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> > thanks a million if you reply
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> > help me out, i am so desparate for relief!
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> hELLO EVERYBODY . I,m also a new nardil user . I had low greade depression and serious anxiety . That coupled with a meltdown in my financial situation -economy etc. has brought me to try this medicine .
> Been working well yet I still drink alcohol which definitely destroys the effect of the nardil. Has anybody else had this problem with alcohol creeping up on a really good therapy with nardil. Seems to counteract for days after I drink only 8 beers .
> Good luck to all and appreciate any response . only the patient knows best .
> Thanks
>
>I've tried Pregabalin to 450mg (supposed to be superior to neurontin). I found it quite effective in the first week for Generalized SAD and Depression - almost like a mood stabilizer - but it certainly wore off and was/is very expensive.
I found Lexapro to be the best - KILLS Depression entirely - lessens Anxiety but not to the same degree as it 'cured' my Depression; Doesn't solve SAD but then what does?
Even better is Moclobemide with Dexamphetamine (Great and has a pro-social effect also) and add in 2.5 to 5mg Lexapro to cover Depression - Is a safe and very effective combination.
As for Nardil I've tried it at 90mg for a few years - my experience and conclusion is below - I hope it helps...
I found that Alcohol with Nardil could make me feel very confident, competent, assertive and VERY social (dis-inhibited) - the perfect state which is otherwise never experienced by someone who is strongly affected by 'Generalized Social Anxiety Disorder/SAD') - and perfect for when in social environments).(Note: nothing else I have tried has ever been able to approach or replicate this state except for maybe Dexamphetamine...and I've tried Nardil, Parnate, Moclobemide, Clonazepam, Xanax, Lexapro, Prozac, Paxil, Amitriptyline, Clomipramine, Remeron, Buspirone, Bupropion, Reboxetine, Ritalin, Dexamphetamine etc (I only try prescribed medication and not street drugs etc)
For me, I found the Nardil only really useful when I combined it with alcohol (this I would only do when out on the town - without alcohol I found Nardil almost redundant bar the early stages/days - a rather hit and miss affair thereafter).There were days in the early stages where I could be quite talkative or pro-social but again this desired affect was not predictable and so not reliable.
With alcohol I found it had a very pro-social effect on me (felt like complete remission - alcohol alone would hardly ever have the same effect on me - note I only drink when out with friends - again I rarely drink otherwise).
Aside from the Nardil-Alcohol combination (i.e. during the day/work etc) I find Nardil rather inconsistant in the early stages/ first few months, before it eventually starts to fade in its effectiveness (aside from the afore-menioned combination).
I find that Nardil can cause rebound anxiety which can at times equate to Paranoia when anxiety levels are heightened (I have experienced this on more than a few occassions - this is VERY problematic and counter-productive - for example if experienced at work etc).
I never experienced any problems with diet (even when having Soya Sauce), however, I did experience weight gain. It also caused loss of Libido and complete ED...only survivable by adding Viagra which makes for a great experience although it can be a mission to come but again this is not the worst.
Would I recommend Nardil for Generalized SAD - not really - paranoia is a Bitch! It can work but is unpredictable and unreliable while also coming with a host of unwanted side-effects.
Good Luck!
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