Posted by bleauberry on October 7, 2009, at 9:32:12
In reply to Re: best drug for suicidal thoughts? trigger » bleauberry, posted by delna on October 7, 2009, at 0:36:08
> Also I have been checked for every organism under the sun (because I did my masters and was exposed to pathogens and I insisted on being tested) but it all came clear. I have always hoped I simply had an infection- maybe it would at least explain the darn fatigue but no luck there. I've had so many tests for infections (including exotic ones because in India we have the ALL ;-) ) and blood tests to rule out organic causes but nothing explains it (the fatigue of the bipolar. Funnily enough before I ever accepted I had a psychiatric condition yet was suicidal my sister gave me great hope by telling me that perhaps I just had mercury in my fillings and to go get checked. So I have always been looking for alternative explanations (including demonic possession!!! )because I hate drugs (but have come to realize that they are really the only things that help)
>I'm glad I got another chance to talk with you. Thank you very much. Very cool talking with you in India.
I wanted to comment on the tests. There are very few tests that have accuracy. There are infectious diseases that hide within our own cells, such as mycoplasma, that completely evade tests and our own immune system. They become a part of our own cells, causing the incredible fatigue, illneses, and disabling of multiple bodily systems.
Even as common as Lyme disease is, the most accurate tests are only roughly 70% accurate. Hundreds of people are misdiagnosed, given a lable such as Fibro, CFS, MS, psychiatric. It is a common happening for those people to discover they Herx badly and then show remarkable improvement when at some point they were given an antibiotic for some unrelated condition. Thus the accidental discovery/diagnosis was made. This happens every day across the world.
Tests for infectious diseases have a high risk of sentencing an innocent person to life in prison with no chance of parole. Because they come up negative when the person is highly infected. Many of these organisms are absolute genius at evasion and self-protection. Mankind has not yet developed reliable tests. They are working on it, but we aren't there yet.
It is easy to rule in or out with various non-prescription agents. Coptis...wide spectrum antibiotic and antifungal, used against Lyme, leprosy, and syphilis. Artemisin...used against protozoa and Babesia and worms. There are a wide variety of potent antimicrobials. Grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, andrographis, japanese knotwood (major source of the popular antiaging supplement resveratrol), oil of oregano. All of these are quite potent, wide spectrum, and yet very low or no toxicity and can be taken longterm...pharmaceutical antibiotics do not fit that profile.
One of the most potent of all...garlic...and it has a very low molecular weight allowing it to cross the blood brain barrier easily to do its work in the nervous system, often unachievable with madmade ABX. Its benefits come from the smelly part...allicin...so de-ordorized garlic supplements have weak potency. Supplements are available as pure Allicin. If taken as raw garlic bulbs, up to 8 cloves per day are needed. Do not cook. Take at the end of a meal for proper stomach PH and allicin metabolism. This is a really easy diagnostic tool...though admittedly smelly for the 4 to 7 days you would do it as a test.
Many infectious diseases are a clinical diagnosis, not a lab diagnosis. Mankind does not have the tools yet to test accurately for many suspected organisms, not even common ones like Lyme or Babesia or Bartonella or Chlamydia Pneumonia or Candida. Tests are available, but not trustworthy as the sole means of diagnosis. It is the clinical picture that matters the most, and the provocation of a Herx reaction to confirm a suspect.
The best diagnostic tool is a blind challenge test with potent low toxicity safe substances that organisms have not developed resistance to in many centuries of use. The above mentioned ones for example. These are all used by the top heavy hitter infectious disease doctors that blend Western and Eastern medicine for improved outcomes.
So what happens when you try these?
1. Nothing.
2. You feel a little better almost right away, and then a lot worse.
3. You feel a lot worse right away.#2 andd #3 are highly diagnostic. These herbs will do practically nothing to someone non-infected. They might just be foods or healthy plants to eat. To the ill person, there will be a serious die-off reaction.
That is the best way to test.
I wanted to mention all this because as I reviewed your symptoms and bizarre reactions to various meds, herbs, and running, there is to my knowledge no other possible explanation that makes more sense for disrupting the body in such a profound way as an infectious organism. Can you think of a better explanation? Of all of them that came to mind, none came close to fitting your presentation and history.
Mercury is certainly another one. Even without chelation, most people do improve in a noticeable way when the source of mercury (amalgams) is removed. Since that hasn't happened with you, I go full circle back to the infectious agents. They were your initial gut instinct, and I believe you were correct right from the start.
I am not a doctor. I call it as I see it. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it probably is one.
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