Posted by Girlnterrupted78 on November 18, 2009, at 15:57:26
In reply to Found it!, posted by maxime on November 17, 2009, at 11:24:30
Thank you so much for that list, maxime. Actually, you won't believe it, but about 2 years ago (when I was on Nardil) somebody sent me that list in print and I might even have it somewhere in my apartment.
Even though the list is infinitely helpful, I was trying to see if there were a place where I could see specific amounts of tyramine.
For example, where it says "Miso soup, fermented soy bean, bean curd, tofu", the tyramine content says "unknown but considered to be high."
I find that puzzling. There was a time a few weeks ago (I was already on 80mgs of Parnate) where I was doing a low-carb diet, and I indulged in tofu more than ever! I had tofu with my salad, tofu with my soup, and even some soft-silken tofu with chocolate for dessert.. so I kept wondering how could that be possible.. zero reaction whatsoever.
Then I asked my doctor if I could have some tempeh, and he gave me the 'ok' for it as well. He just told me to be careful and have nifedipine handy. Well, the nifedipine was never necessary, and I've had tempeh everyday since--that was 3 weeks ago.
So if I could ever find out the actual tyramine content of both tofu and tempeh, then it would give me an idea of what amounts of tyramine are still ok and where is the limit.
The lists tend to prohibit so many foods, and it has the tendency of saying: "unknown but considered high" but the truth is that thoes "high" ones haven't been high enough for me, and I am sure I had quite a lot more than 2oz of tofu.
Tempeh, on the other hand, I usually only have 1oz at a time, but that's just because it has a lot more calories and fat than tofu, and I try to watch my caloric intake. But I already gave up tofu in favor of tempeh because a)Tempeh does taste quite a lot better and b)tempeh has like triple the amount of protein and fiber than tofu, so it's a better choice, even though I have to eat it in smaller amounts.
Thank you so much for that find, though, and I appreciate you took the time to look for it. I will bookmark it and have it as reference because I still tend to forget specific foods from time to time and have gotten so comfortable seeing how I can eat so many foods that are supposedly "prohibited" without a problem.
By the way, the other day I saw at the market some "soy gorgonzola" do you know if that somehow qualifies as high in tyramine? That puzzled me.. and they probably even have "soy Parmesan".
I have even eaten the tofurkey sausages without a problem, so in my experience, tofu doesn't seem to be all that high in tyramine.. but then again, when I say I indulged in it, I probably ate 4-5oz at the most. If I had gone overboard, who knows what would've happened.
Thanks again for the help.
> http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/neurology/Tyramine%20Menu%20Book%2006227101.pdf
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