Posted by Lou Pilder on February 20, 2012, at 13:05:28
In reply to Lou's defense-avderdhaphact » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on February 20, 2012, at 12:51:03
> > Lou Pilder.
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> > Thank you for replying to my question.
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> > > > > ...the drug that they are promoting.
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> > > > What do you mean by "promoting"? Do you think I have motives to suggest the efficacy of drugs for reasons that are not altruistic? I feel accused and put-down.
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> > > Then, the post here in the link talks about taking Topomax. As I understand the grammatical structure of the statement, it is offering Topomax as something that the mother could have the child take which in my understanding of the word {promotion}, could include as that as being advocated.
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> > I feel accused. You are paraphrasing my words and substituting "advocate" for "promote". You now add "advocate" as if the definitions for these two words were the same. I did not promote Topamax. "Promote" is the word you first used to describe my behavior. You did not use the word "advocate".
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> > SLS: "One more tool to be aware of is Topamax. It works for mixed states, as does Depakote. Topamax treatment must be initiated at a very low dosage and titrated gradually in order to avoid cognitive side effects. 100 mg may be all that is needed. I have seen it work wonders for mixed states. Topamax is known to produce weight loss, just in case that is an issue."
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> > This is simply education and support.
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> > Just to address your characterization my use of my grammer, I think it would have been appropriate for you to have included a quotation of my words so that they could be scrutinized. I did not suggest that anyone take Topamax. Clearly, I suggested that the poster be aware of the existence of Topamax. I did not promote nor advocate that it be used.
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> > I do advocate the use of Topamax for bipolar disorder. I currently do not promote it. Perhaps I will in the future.
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> > Promote:
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> > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/promote
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> > "to encourage the sales, acceptance, etc., of (a product), especially through advertising or other publicity."
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> > This is not a question of grammer. It is a question of diction.
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> >
> > - Scott
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> Friends,
> The post above is one that I think can go a long way to undertsanding the issues here. I will include the link to the post in question here to go back to in order to see the issues involved.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20120212/msgs/1010901.html
> Now bw advised that in situations like this, the words in question can become what is what. It is what can be seen, not what the maker of the words says that it means after the fact, but in most of the cases that I have prosecuted, the defendant raises to the judge/magistrate that the word means something different.
> Now here is how those type of cases haave been handled in my cases:
> The rule is that it is not what the person who is the maker of the word says that it means, or the one contesting the word's meaning says that it means, but what a reasonable person could think that it means. I know of only one case that then went further as to that the phrase {reasonable person} was contested to mean.
> Also the magistrate/judge usually states that the plaintif can not invoke what they want the word to mean, except by dictionary definition and such. This is because the defendant does not have to be a mind-reader.
> Now in the case at hand here, there are three words that the maker of the document in question here is bringing up. First, he is the maker of the words, I am defending my post from what I read that he made with his words. I can not tell what he wants to mean after the fact, for I could only post my response as seeing the words before the fact. Now let's look at the words....to be contimued
> LouFriends,
There are three words here that I read {in their context} that as considering myself a reasonable person, responded with the understnding of what the words could mean.The three words are: tool, promote and advocate.
The generally accepted meaning of {tool} is that it is ssomething that facilitates getting a job done correctly.
The generally accepted meaning of to {advocate}, is to write in favor of or be supportive of its inclusion in or for something. This usually happens in what is referred to as a {testamonial} of praise.
The generally accepted meaning of {promote} is to write something that one could think to adopt because there is language that {raises above} what else is in that set of things being talked about.
Now in this case, we have the maker of the words stating:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20120212/msg/1010901.html
Let's see how a resonable person could think as to what the maker of the post could be meaning.
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1010739
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20120212/msgs/1010987.html