Posted by Lou Pilder on March 2, 2012, at 6:10:28
In reply to any suggestions to ask my doc next week?, posted by JohnLA on March 1, 2012, at 22:08:26
> in a few weeks my 2 year anniversary of my first ever depressive episode will arrive...
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> i'm currently on 30mg of remeron and 2mg to 3mg a day of klonopin.
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> i've tried the following;
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> lexapro
> zoloft
> cymbalta
> effexor
> wellbutrin
> celexa
> nuvigil
> a baby dose of abilify for a few days only
> and 12 sessions of unilateral ect
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> all did not help. some kicked my *rs*. (wellbutrin for example.)
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> i also do talk therapy once a week
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> with the remeron and klonopin i sleep well and do not get too excited about anything. when my depression started i was extremely agitated, lost a ton of weight, and could not sleep. now, at least i sleep, am calm and am unfortunately getting fat for the first time in my life.
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> so, in some ways i am better. but overall i am spending most of my time in bed both day and night ruminating. also, part of those ruminations are suicidal thoughts. in 1 month it will be 2 years since i last worked. if i don't go back to teaching in sept they put me on early-retirement at a much lower pension. i really don't want that. i'm only 49.
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> i am waiting to see 2 doctor's about ketamine this month. 1 does the iv method and the other does it intra-nasal or sublingual.
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> can someone make a suggestion that might be similar to remeron/klonopin with a little more mood lifting/energy w/out causing anxiety? or, an add-on? maybe a mild old school tca, if it exists. i'm extremely sensitive to meds. the remeron and klonopin have been pretty easy to take. still, i don't dig the weight and lethargy that is settling in.
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> besides the apathy i have a pretty good case of anhedonia going on too.
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> i asked these same questions when i first came here 6 months ago. i apologize. i just could use some info when i go to see the psych on monday.
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> thanks for any help.
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> john
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> john,
You wrote,[..could use some info...thanks for any help..].
Now people here could tell you to take this drug or that drug or a combination of drugs or other things that they think would be good for you. But would death be really good for you?
You see, the chemicals in psychotropic drugs do something to your nervous system and brain in particular. The chemicals used in the drugs are of some that were devised in the production of nerve agents to cause death. This goes back before 1933 and after 1945.
Now in my examination of psychotropic drugs, I find a core structure of chemicals that can cause blood disease as in leukemia and agranulocytosis and aplastic anemia and such that could cause death. It is benzene and other chhemicals combined to produce many of these drugs, for benzen can cause leukemia.
I wrote a little about the drug Saphris here concerning its chemical structure that has constituants in it that are in a riot control substance used in the 50's that forms a cloud and cause dibilitation and extreme eye irritation and can cause cancer. I did not finish that exposition but do plan to here.
But now there is to you the aspect to take {nortriptyline}. Do you know what this chemical and its matabolite can do to you? If you did know that, maybe with that information you could make a more informed decision as to even ask your doctor to prescribe it to you.
This drug has a potenntial to induce a mind-alterd stae in the taker of the drug to compel them to want to kill themselves, and other life-ruining conditions as well.
Here is a link to a site and I am requesting that you show it to your prescriber if you are persuaded here by anyone to have this drug put in your system. Notice the chances of induced suicide thinking with this drug in the following link.
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/nortriptyline+hydrochloride/completed+suicide
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