Posted by g_g_g_unit on May 3, 2012, at 8:05:21
In reply to Re: *still* feel foggy/stoned on Parnate » g_g_g_unit, posted by SLS on May 3, 2012, at 6:05:07
Thanks Scott. I hope you understand your concern means a lot to me. Sometimes I don't feel like I try hard enough, though that's mainly because I'm not doing very much to work on my OCD right now (which is just too severe for therapy alone). I spend a lot of the day engaged in avoidance behaviors.
When I went to 40mg, I took 15mg + 15mg + 10mg, 2.5-3 hours apart. After a week, I thought the fog should have dissipated, but it hadn't. I know there is no real beneficial effect on attention because I will often attempt to read something after dosing as a test. There is also none of the alertness/clearheadednss I initially experienced, which I can just detect by self-observation.
So today, out of frustration, I took 20mg. After an hour, nothing happened, so I took a further 10mg and just felt sleepy. Maybe not the most scientific approach ..
As for effects on depression, I notice an absence of leaden paralysis and a positive mood at night. I had less suicidal thoughts when my ADHD was improved, but now that I'm feeling foggy, I feel hopeless again.
I wonder if maybe a) I just need to spend more time at this dose, b) poor sleep (from benzos) is negatively impacting the ADD effects, or c) the drug is hitting the dopamine auto-receptors at this dose, which might explain the sleepiness etc. King Vultan has written about downregulating dopamine auto-receptors with Parnate in the archives. Maybe a higher dose would be necessary to achieve this.
> I'm sorry to hear that.
>
> :-(
>
> You try so hard.
>
> I am unsure as to how you are taking Parnate. How do you know that 10 mg does nothing for attention; that 20 mg is no longer activating; and that 30 mg is making you sleepy? Are you changing your total daily dosage each day, or are you describing what happens after each sequential dose during the course of the same day? Is there any positive effect on depression yet?
>
> With Nardil, I felt weird for over a week once I reached 60 mg. I eventually gleaned a partial response at 90 mg.
>
> Did you try Emsam? It can be somewhat energizing and often reduces anxiety. There are some reports that it helps treat ADHD. Perhaps you would tolerate it better.
>
> We are fine. Drugs are weird.
>
>
> - Scott
>
poster:g_g_g_unit
thread:1016518
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20120425/msgs/1017012.html