Posted by novelagent on June 19, 2012, at 0:51:56
In reply to Re: going off meds - finding doc for opiods or stims? » novelagent, posted by SLS on June 18, 2012, at 0:22:02
memantine doesn't do anything for tolerance. Forums have posts about memantine "reverse tolerance" by people (not you) who misread the term "reverse tolerance" to mean "reverses toleramce" and that's where you're getting that from. If you ask me, it's mostly written by people who take excessive amounts of amphetamines-- enough to cause tolerance- and their IQ is impaired... they also (not you) get obsessive on those forums about it, since they're hyperfocused.
Heroin is what happens when one can't afford to buy pills off the street anymore, so I'd be careful about encouraging anyone to enter down an opiate path. It happens. I am troubled by just how casual opiates are talked about here.
Opiates do not work long-term for any condition, including pain, and the risk of becoming addicted by taking it simply as prescribed and then not even have it work anymore... it's un-wise. And stupid, if you forgive me for making a point.
> > I find that stupid. Not to judge or anything, I just think you're being an idiot. (No offense).
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> I'm not sure that this verbiage is helpful.
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> For whatever reasons, some very educated people with depression report that buprenorphine is the only drug that relieves it. Others report tramadol as being effective, although its properties of NE/5-HT reuptake inhibition cannot be overlooked. However, many of these people had tried reuptake inhibitors previously without success.
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> Regarding nociception, memantine might extend the analgesic effects of opioids and mitigate the development of tolerance. This has been the conclusion of numerous studies. There is far less evidence of memantine extending the therapeutic effects of amphetamines. I never tried it.
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> - Scott
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