Posted by Lou Pilder on July 5, 2012, at 5:24:53
In reply to Lou's advice-phleigh » UGottaHaveHope, posted by Lou Pilder on July 5, 2012, at 4:57:56
> > Hello to some of my longtime friends in here. I need your help or insight into my situation.
> >
> > I've had primarily anxiety, with underlying depression, since 1997. I have not had much success with ADs. A few years ago, I was put on Nardil 60mg, Seroquel 25mg, and Xanax XR 2mg.
> >
> > In March 2011, I got tired of the side effects of Nardil and slowly weaned myself off it. At that time, I gained a lot of confidence because of three things: Getting off the Nardil, getting me old job duties back at work, and selling a house.
> >
> > Back to the meds: From then on, I just took the Seroquel 25mg and Xanax XR 2mg at night. That combination felt like a Benadryl on steroids. Unless I was worked up, it was usually the best sleep of my life. When I woke up, I was groggy for a few hours, but that was OK because it took the edge "off" my anxiety. It made me lethargic during the day but it was worth the tradeoff.
> >
> > For about 12 months there, I had the best stretch in 15 years of anxiety/depression. Again, a lot of it had to do with work. If I wasnt focused on my current project, I was thinking about my next one. All I did was work, eat and sleep. I know, not balanced but I was functioning well and beginning to do social activities.
> >
> > In April 2011, I got a job offer that I had been pursuing but I could not take it because it was a contract job and did not offer benefits (including no health insurance), details I did not fully understand until then. With either decision (take the job or not), I was going to have regrets. I spent the rest of April and all of May beating myself up with the regrets. I obsessed about it 24/7, and I had crashed into a severe depression by June. My one year of steady improvement simply crashed.
> >
> > I have not been able to get back into the groove that I was in. It is hard for me to get out my house. I dont have the same zeal for work. Ive lost 15 pounds. I cant find motivation or purpose. You know how it is? When you dont feel good, you forget that you ever felt well?
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> > Finally, my questions. I finally returned going to see my pdoc this week. The last time I saw this pdoc, she thought I had symptoms of Bipolar 2 for reasons Im still not sure. Anyways, this week I go in there fully expecting the doc to put me on Lamictal or Abilify. First, she asks if I want to try Effexor (I havent had much success with any SSRIs in the past). Then, she asks if I want to go back on Nardil (I didnt want the side effects again). Eventually, she decides to put me on a 30-day sample packet of Viibyrd, along with keeping me on Seroquel 50mg and Xanax XR 2mg. I dont sleep as well on Viibryd Ive noticed, and it gives me diarrhea (common side effect). Im just not sure about this combination.
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> > Does anybody have an opinion on that combo? What about Viibryd in particular? Or is there something out there that might work better? Im in a rural area, and any suggestions my pdoc would consider. Ive thought about going back to Nardil.
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> > Thanks in advance for any insight or opinions.
>
> UGHH,
> You wrote,[...any advice...anyone have an opinion on that combo...any suggestions my podc would consider...thanks..for any insight or opinions...].
> My friend, the chemicals in the combination of drugs that you are taking could kill you. You see, they are CNS depressants and respiratory depresssants and taken together they become more so, as their effects become magnified.
> Here are two links showing the stats in relation to death just by the one drug if taken by itself. When they are combined, the effect of death is increased.
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/seroquel/death
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
> Now I would like for you to have whoever prescribed this potentally lethal combination of drugs to you to contact me and I could then hhave the opportunity to send him/her educational material in relation to the chemistry of these drugs that I am prohibited here from posting due to prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. I think that if those prohibitions were not posted to me, that your life and other's lives could bbe saved and/or a life-ruining condition/addiction couuld be prevented. You see, you could run into the argument here from members that take mind-altering drugs that {the benefits outweigh the risks}. I say to you, if death could result from your prescribers combiation of drugs, what benefit could outweigh that risk?
> Here are some questions that I think could be appropriate to ask your prescriber:
> A. Would you provide a death-benefit to my survivors if I die from the drugs that you are prescribing me?
> B. By what authority do you use to prescribe me combination of drugs when they can depress the CNS that could cause respiratory failure/death?
> C. How many of your clients have died under your care?
> D. Is there an alternative to taking the combination of drugs that you prescribe to me?
> E. Do you have any finanial ties to any drug manuacturer?
> F. Could what you are doing be considerd negligent homocide in some jurisdictions?
> G. Could you contact this Lou guy and he could tell youu the historical development of psyychotropic drugs as to how they were used and for whht purpose and how the psychotropic drugs today could not be new drugs but just off-shoots of old drugs with new names?
> H. Could I become addicted to these drugs? If so, how couuld you want me to take drugs that I will have to take for life unless I want to experiance a horrific withdrawal syndrome, which is also referred to as {discontinuation syndrome}, and if taken for life the long-term effects could be even worse such as tardive dyskinesiaa/dystonia and sudden death along with other possible dibilitations and brain damage?
> K. Are you aware that Seroquel can cause Tardive dyskinesia? If so, and I get it, will you compenate me for the rest of my life for the suffering that I could have from the drug?
> L. Will you consider resigning from psychiatry if this Lou guy, which you can read about, is correct?
> M. redacted by respondent
> Lou
>
> UGHH,
now here is more that can cause your life to be ruined from the dgs.
One is the potential of getting diabetes from the drugs.
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/SEOQUEL-and-XANAX/diabetes+mellitus
Then there is the potential for the drugs to compel you to want to kill yorself:
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/seroquel/completed+suicide
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/completed+suicide
Now these are just part of the bag you get from the psychiatrist's prescribing drugs to you. There is much more that could be unbeknownst to you that I am prohibited from posting here due to the prohibitions made to me by Mr.Hsiung. You could go to the admin board and follow the outstnding requests from me to Mr. Hsiung and ask yourself if this Lou guy could be correct and that he could offer educational material that could save live and prevent others form getting a life-ruining condition or addiction if he was not having the prohibitions to him..
Lou
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