Posted by bleauberry on January 21, 2014, at 13:12:10
In reply to Re: Medicaire to Reveal Individual Doc Pay Mid March » bleauberry, posted by europerep on January 20, 2014, at 15:57:54
A family member lives in Austria. I know from discussions that they have a decent system. But, it is a tiny country, much easier for that type of plan to be appropriate and to be managed. And, they pay very high taxes for it all.
Sad, but we pay about the same amount of tax, but we get nothing! For their high taxes, they get guaranteed paid vacations and a lot more than we get, easy access healthcare, and lots of other stuff. We pay the same, and get nothing but firetrucks and police cars and a fairly worthless school system.
I meant Earth, not America. We all for the most part got it all wrong. Expected. Humans. Flesh and bone. Mistakes common. Ego common. Exaggerated sense of wisdom common. Born flawed.
Some do better than others, but it is merely a relative comparison. Sad...the USA used to be the best in the world. I heard something recently that put us at about #7.
The entire insurance thing is one massive scam imo, and it falls under the category of "generally accepted", so it is not questioned or opposed. The medical system itself is what might be called a polygonomy....a monopoly involving an entire industry....one player raises price, they all raise price....no one lowers price because there is no competition....a whole lot of sheep willing to pay the trusted shephard whatever he asks, no questions asked.
Quick calculations showed that if I had paid my insurance premiums of 2013 into a piggy bank, I would have paid all my expenses in cash and had about $300 left over.
"Coverage" is a fairly empty useless word unless it means "you get good care when you need it and in an affordable manner." I was covered in all of 2013. Practically every bill I got from a doctor visit or lab test I had to pay most or all in cash. Insurance, even though it was the best I could get, was not helpful enough to justify its cost.
Catastrophic insurance makes sense I think. But even then, if something catastrophic happens without insurance, the hospital is going to take you, and to avoid malpractice risks, give you good care too. The bill afterwards can be paid with monthly payments as low as $10 a month (for the rest of your life :-))
I am one of the ones that Obama kicked out. I had decent insurance. Except for the high deductible. Anyway, that was taken from me without any asking or warning or anything. The Obama insurance that would replace it, happens to cost TWICE what my other insurance did....enough to make TWO car payments per month....and the deductible is so high the insurance will never be of any help in real life.
Coverage does not equal health care. The best health care, in my opinion, comes from free societies with growth economies. We haven't seen that since Reagan and then Clinton. Prior to that, Coolidge and Kennedy. Growth. That's where all other good things happen. The current administration practices most of the no-growth or slow-growth strategies known, and none of the pro-growth strategies.
> > All you know is, what you saw makes no sense at all, and this place called earth uses some sort of twisted contorted contaminated version of critical thinking.
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> America. Not Earth.
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> A lot of countries have gotten their act together, healthcare-wise, decades ago, and many of them are even quite significantly less wealthy than the USA.
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