Re: Thomatheus » kirkglen

Thank you for your concerns about my mental health and for suggesting that I consider trying the Gavis phenelzine. I don't post here on Psycho-Babble every time I try a new treatment for my affective psychosis, but just so you know, I am in the midst of trialing a supplement called monolaurin alongside my regular regimen of Abilify, niacin, and vitamin D3. Monolaurin, from my understanding, has the ability to deactivate a range of different disease-causing microorganisms and is sometimes used by patients whose energy levels are chronically low as mind tend to be. I thought that I could potentially benefit from monolaurin both because it's used for chronic low-energy states and because I likely have some sort of chronic infection, given that my white blood cell count has come back as elevated several times over the past eight years. So far, I've been noticing a clear reduction in the severity of my fatigue, difficulty concentrating, and oversleeping since starting monolaurin, and much unlike other supplements that I've tried, monolaurin's benefits have actually seemed to strengthen with time. Having said what I've said, today is only my fourth day taking monolaurin, so I really have no idea how the supplement is going to affect me over a longer period of time. Those who've read a lot of my relatively recent posts here on Psycho-Babble, particularly those on the alternative board, know that I've had a good number of supplements seem to boost my energy and concentration right off the bat only to seemingly become ineffective later on. Monolaurin is a supplement that I've taken before, but I can't remember for sure if it seemed to stop working for me previously or if I stopped it for a different reason. Sure, there's a chance that monolaurin's benefits might last for me, but if it ends up being like almost every other supplement that I've tried, the benefits will end up being short lived.

So, for now, I do plan to continue with my monolaurin trial in hopes that the supplement might become a useful part of my treatment regimen over the long haul. If my response to the monolaurin fades, however, I will have to try a different approach as far as my treatment is concerned. Certainly, asking my psychiatrist about the Gavis phenelzine is one option that I would want to consider. As far as my symptoms of fatigue, difficulty concentrating, slowed thinking, and oversleeping are concerned, Nardil is probably the only treatment that I've tried (certainly the only psychiatric medication) that's considerably reduced the severity of those symptoms for an extended period of time. Given the fact that it is the above-mentioned symptoms that I feel cause me the most impairment currently, asking my psychiatrist about the Gavis phenelzine might make some sense at this point. And I know that if my symptoms were exactly the same as they were the last time I took Nardil, I'd be doing everything I can to ensure that the Gavis version of phenelzine would at least be part of my treatment regimen. As you've mentioned, the Gavis version of phenelzine can be dispensed in bottles that contain a desiccant, and that particular version of phenelzine also hasn't been known for having problems with bad batches, as the Pfizer version at least was in the past. I strongly suspect that the reason why Nardil Pfizer's Nardil seemed to both suddenly stop working and suddenly produce severe side effects was because I received a bad batch of the medication from my pharmacy. Not only did the medication seem to stop working and produce stronger-than-usual side effects very suddenly before I discontinued it, but it also crushed up differently (and I crushed up the tablets to put them into enteric capsules at the time), indicating that something about the pills was different.

Anyway, the point that I've been try make is that there clearly are some reasons as to why I'd want to consider asking my psychiatrist about the Gavis version of phenelzine. At the same time, though, there are some reasons why trying any version of Nardil/phenelzine at this juncture might not be a good idea, namely that getting a prescription for Nardil/phenelzine for a disorder that has some psychotic features would be difficult, that Nardil/phenelzine might exacerbate some of my psychotic symptoms, and that there might be other treatment choices that would be better options at this point. Despite the fact that I once found Nardil to be very beneficial as a treatment, if my fatigue and related symptoms are actually caused by whatever chronic infection I seem to have, it might be a better idea to inquire with a medical professional about a medication that would target the infection in question, as opposed to a psychiatric medication that targets neurotransmitters. To me, getting to the root of my illness, if that can be done, would be preferable to treating mere symptoms (assuming that Nardil would even succeed at doing that).

At any rate, regardless as to what my next treatment move might be if my monolaurin trial doesn't end with success, I will heed your words and consider asking my psychiatrist about the Gavis version of phenelzine. As I said above, I do have a few reservations about taking Nardil/phenelzine again, but I do think that the Gavis version of phenelzine is something that ought to be up for consideration as part of my treatment if my monolaurin trial doesn't work out.

Has a chronic psychotic disorder with long-standing difficulties with energy and concentration

Taking Abilify & supplements including vitamins B3 & D3

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