Posted by Hello321 on September 19, 2015, at 20:58:20
In reply to Re: Young people on SSRI's commit more crimes? » Hello321, posted by SLS on September 19, 2015, at 16:20:11
Youre jumping ahead of me on this. Ive posted on topics similar to this many times on this site and dont think ive ever mentioned these medications should be banned. I just think patients need to be fully informed on all possible outcomes theses treatments can have. And they should be done so in the such a way as one would describe what sunlight feels like to someone who has never felt the sun. The positive and negative effects need to be fully understood. If a patient doesnt have time for this, then their mood problems likely arent bad enough to require prescription treatment.
Respectfully, i believe it is naive for anyone to think the public benefits from full transparency by the Drug Companies or regulatory agencies. Or any Association that is tied to psychiatric treatments. Im about to be doing ECT again and saw the ECT doc monday to vet the treatment set up. I had a friend with me and at one point he asked if ECT can cause brain damage. The ECT doc said a big "no". But thats untrue and one would know this if they simply read a paper titled
"Electroconvulsive therapy reduces frontal cortical
connectivity in severe depressive disorder"Or talked to those who have experienced seemingly permant negative effects from tbe treatment on certain aspects of their life that the brain has control over. If a patient just experiences some memories being permanently wiped away after doing ECT, then just what is that? Something being permanently altered in the brain by the ECT, right? And if this effect is negative in any way at all, then isnt that permanent brain damage from the ECT? We just need full transparency. We cant be giving medical "professionals" a pass when they are wrong for what ever reason with their info their job requires them to be informed on. They make too much $ off poor, sick, helpless people for this to be acceptable. Even with something as simple as when my psychiatrist at my last appointment said 20mgs of Viibryd isnt a therapeutic dose, when that dose was approved as a therapeutic dose for the treatment of depression some months ago. Their job is too important for them to be getting by without knowledge on how to do it properly.
Anyway, the Tylenol and tbe other med you mentioned (cant recall it at the moment) have warnings on them for the possibility of such negative effects being caused by them. There is no warning for the most controversial negative effects antidepressants can cause. Any speak of homicidal thoughts being induced by a psychiatric often results in anyone bringing it up being lookdd at like a crazed conspiracist theorist. Then there are permanent effects some have experienced from them, like sexual dysfunction. Even a permant change in brain/neurotransmitter function that van result in a permant worsening of ones mental health looooong after the treatment has been stopped.
I guess i shouldnt refer to these things as permanent. Longterm is a better word i guess, since if these effects go away at any point after experiencing them over a long period of time, theyre not technically permenant. I know these possible effects i mentioned are controversial. But lets stop doing things to discredit those suffering from them.
SoOOoooOo i guess i believe if its possible a chemical out there could benefit someones mental illness, then they should have access to it after being fully informed on all known effects it can have by a fully knowledgeable doctor who is "on their game" everytime a patient is in front of them (which currently isnt the case). And more precautions should be taken to minimize the worst effects happening, maybe seeing their doc more often could minimize this. Tho i myself in the past decided to opt out of letting my psychiatrist know about any of the darkest thoughts/emotions ive felt from treatment. Basically, i dont want to be locked in a mental hospital. Im sure others are like this too. Or if they think these thoughts could have the law step in and some of their rights taken away, then they may just keep these thoughts to themselves. And if these thoughts start to just feel so right, then bad things can happen to themselves or others. And i guess continuing to pfescribe these meds can just result in "collateral damage" at times. We need to get past debating on if this is possible and get to how to minimize this outcome as much as possible.
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