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Re: Shooters and Psychiatry

Posted by hello321 on October 4, 2015, at 21:05:01

In reply to Re: Shooters and Psychiatry, posted by baseball55 on October 4, 2015, at 19:33:24

> And where exactly is the evidence that mass shooters take anti-depressants? Can you name one? It might make this convo more productive if you followed what is said during it.

>I don't think crime stats have anything to do with depression or anti-depressants, since depressed people or people recovering from depression rarely commit crimes in the first place.

Why do you think this? Any evidence?

> Changes in the crime rate since the 1960s are probably due to:
>
> *greater access and availability of guns (see the book Fist, Stick, Knife, Gun) which lead to more disputes escalating to murder.
> *The crack epidemic that caused huge spikes in violent crime in the 80s.
> *Some people argue that greater availability of birth control and abortion reduced the birth of unwanted children among single parents and caused crime rates to decline by the 90s, when those children would have reached prime crime-involvement years.
> *Aging of the population. Crime rates decline with age. Prime crime ages are 16-25.
> *More intense focus on street level policing and incarceration in the mid-80s.
> * Better reporting. For example, rape, in the 60s and 70s, was rarely reported or prosecuted. In the late 70s and early 80s, a lot of crime in high crime rate cities went unreported because the police just didn't bother investigating anything but murders.
> *reduction in gang activity

True, these things you listed probably have had an effect on the crime rate.

> I don't know of one serious study of crime rates by criminologists or sociologists of crime that mentions antidepressants as either a cause or solution of violent crime.

Do you think serious studies need to be done then?

> Psych drugs are not responsible for everything, nor is mental illness.

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