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Re: Nardil

Posted by Lamdage22 on November 2, 2015, at 16:30:22

In reply to Re: Nardil » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on November 2, 2015, at 15:38:22

> > We can agree on "a bipolar component".
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> > The real question is what is the best treatment for me taking potential and actual side effects into account.
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> The short answer is that I don't know. The long answer is that I don't know.

That makes sense :)

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> :-(
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> At baseline (untreated), how would you describe your schizoid symptoms?

Scott, i honestly dont know if i have psychotic symptoms at all at baseline. When i withdraw APs too quickly, i am mostly paranoid. Persecutory delusions. Something along the lines of that.

To what degree do you become psychotic, and what do you experience?

On Nardil? Voices. Not many voices but very paranoid. "I am guilty" delusions. "God is going to punish me" delusions. But almost at the same time "i am god delusions". On Nardil, id speak of a mixed affect psychotic episode.

Some people have themes to their schizoid psychoses. For instance, believing that there are always intruders in the house would be a theme. Others are visited by spirits that help them predict the future. Some are scared that the world is filled with powerful witches.

My theme was that i was raped as a kid and that i am either god or some kind of demon. Like i said kind of "mixed episode".

> It has been my observation of a few people with schizoaffective disorder that mania precedes psychosis, which is then followed by depression. I don't know that this is necessarily universal or described in the literature, but it makes sense to me. Here, if you can prevent triggering the mania, you will also help prevent schizoid psychosis, and, hopefully a severe depression. I have seen the appearance of anxiety lead to mania. One woman was actually able to prevent her schizoaffective cycling by taking Xanax when the anxiety first appeared. This is only one person, of course.
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> I think the place to start with you is to determine the severity of your depression and make decisions at to whether an antidepressant should be used in addition to antipsychotics. A friend of mine is doing extrememly well on a combination Wellbutrin, Navane, and Saphris. Adding the Saphris actually had an energizing antidepressant effect. She is now in college and working. She is a true success story.
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> - Scott

My plan is to take Cannabidiol as an antipsychotic. My fear now is that it will help psychosis but not mania. Is it possible to be manic without being psychotic?

Does CBD stabilize mood, too?

THX, Scott


schizo-affective, type depressive
Nortriptyline 25mg
Seroquel 700mg
Zyprexa 12.5mg
Effexor 37.5mg
Metformin 2000mg
Lithium orotate 360mg
Some Vitamin D


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