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Re: antidepressants, depresion, status » Christ_empowered

Posted by beckett2 on October 19, 2018, at 19:51:28

In reply to antidepressants, depresion, status, posted by Christ_empowered on October 19, 2018, at 18:58:58

> my counselor keeps hinting that i need one. the shrink (he's gone now...clinic, they come and go) said two thumbs down to -any- antidepressant, because...you know...I'm "severely Bipolar I" and all (note the sarcasm).
>
> blah. i do think depression, probably more severe, is the main problem here. but are antidepressants really a valid option, long term, for...anyone?!?!


Are you severely depressed or 'just' depressed? There is Wellbutrin, which you've likely tried. But that might treat problems of 'oomph' and not depression. I've been counseled many times to just stay on them. After going off meds and on, bittersweetly, I'm much better on. Someday depression and MI will be better understood, and there'll be better treatments.

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> ive reconciled to my parents and they take good care of me. lol. really grown up, i know. they're not rich, but they're "well-to-do," it seems...so now, I'm "that Schizophrenic, from a good family" in the community.
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> point there is...poverty was rough. it wasn't just the lack of stuff, because i wasn't -that- poor...it was stigma, social isolation, pressure...unending, non stop pressure. welcome to late stage capitalism, I guess (?).
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> now...my parents are -not- rich, but they have enough status and resources that my life is...easy breezy, basically. I live in places I don't have to pay for. I drive a vehicle that I don't pay for. and I find...
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> my "depression" is less severe, and...different, too. its more about...knowing that no matter how miraculous my recovery, I'm labeled and stigmatized. no matter how healthy I am, I lost much of my youth to poverty and madness. and its about...
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> sensing real limitations, with no way out. growing up, at long last? its about churches that focus on married couples and families, and don't -deal- with "mental patients" often...
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> and about "friends" who showed pity when I was down and out, and seem a tad bit...jealous, maybe even angry...now that I'm supported by "genteel" parents.
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> blah. I don't know, honestly. i have an older (70s) Born Again Christian friend who forever encourages me to get a job, wear a smile, and...get out there! i know it sounds lazy, but...
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> is it so wrong to not work, if working means being picked on and bullied, all for low wages and 0 upward mobility?
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> i know this isn't really "meds-related," etc., but..c'mon. there's a lot more to "severe mental illness" than skillfully combining pills.
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> thanks. :-)

Part of mental illness and recovery is grieving for a sense of a healthy self. That's not pathological. Also, reconciling with your parents and having their support is wonderful. There is no shame in financial support, although I really do understand the shame that invites because I'm supported myself, by a spouse. I also understand, I think, the ideas of class inequalities and how that can inform guilt in someone with ideals and a sensitive heart, if that is true of you.

Sometimes (well, all the time), when I see a homeless person, and there are plenty where I am, there is so much emotion, and I think things like, there but for the grace of god go I, etc. And on the heels of that, why then? Why is that person there, on the street? Guilt. And a sense of injustice. And fear. Because poverty is terrible and can be crushing.

Thanks for the update. Do you think of volunteering? I know that advice is continually trotted out, but there is some value to it.


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