Posted by alexandra_k on June 7, 2021, at 13:43:20
In reply to Re: Johnson + Johnson vaccine can someone explain how, posted by SLS on May 30, 2021, at 21:59:16
> The New York Yankees baseball team was injected with the J&J vaccine. Afterwards, 3 or more tested positive for coronavirus.
I don't know if production of the spike protein triggers a positive test? I don't suppose it would otherwise the vaccine would undermine the integrity of the test...
> For now, I'm still wearing my mask until someone can assure me that breathing in coronavirus won't do any damage before they are overwhelmed by antibodies and the rest of the immune system. In other words, what, if any, damage is sustained before the virus is intercepted by antibodies. Is there a lag that allows time for the damage to accumulate.
I don't know. It can't hurt to wear a mask, I don't think.
> Remember, though, it is not the virus that creates all of the damage. At some point, the virus provokes the release of a hugely exaggerated inflammation response - a "cytokine storm". Too many white blood cells attack the inner lining of blood vessels, and make them leak blood into tissues. On the other hand, blood clots can form also. It is bewildering.
Yeah... I forgot about leaking blood into the tissues and clots. They thought those were similar in mechanism to heparin induced thrombocytopenia. They know already that it isn't only induced by heparin. It can be induced by other drugs and also it can induced by viruses. The antibodies that the body produces (I think that is right) activate the platelets. So the platelets form clots. Then the platelets are all used up.
It was relatively recently that I understood that the platelets are sort of dynamically active to prevent blood leaking out of the small vessels. Like how receptor proteins are dynamically flipping into or out of cell membranes. A certain level of platelets or whatever is required to be attending to the walls of the small vessels otherwise you start to leak blood. So if the platelets are all used up attending to the antibodies forming clots with them then there aren't any attending to the walls. So blood leaks. They get activated irrevokably. I think that's the idea... So they are basically taken out of action.
Does that make sense? Of the clots together with bleeding out?
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