Posted by SLS on July 8, 2022, at 10:52:04
In reply to Nardil share, posted by Jadde on July 7, 2022, at 15:55:02
> Hello all. Had a new experience with Nardil, and hope this helps someone. A few months ago, I felt like I was losing the a/d effect. I was under enormous stress at the time. I tried going up in dose but that didnt work. A while later, I stopped taking my 5mg Zyprexa for sleep. I wanted desperately to lose some weight. It worked but I became a zombie from lack of sleep. So I started the Zyprexa again. Miraculously Nardil kicked back in almost immediately. I had the full blown Nardil hypomanic episode and then it slowly eased into the nice a/d effect with some much needed daily energy.
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> I suppose its possible that it was the Zyprexa itself but Im almost positive it was Nardil, that needed the Zyprexa push if that makes sense. Im no expert on these things and the experience was a complete surprise. I feel good, I feel normal.
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> As always YMMV. Again, just thought Id share.
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> Jade
That's an amazing observation. Do you think that adding Zyprexa after Nardil stops working can bring about another remission?Quetiapine (Seroquel) is often chosen for sleep at dosages between 25-50 mg at bedtime. It is reported to work great. Another avenue is to try several "Z" drugs. They work on a subtype of benzodiazepine receptor that produces sleep, but not sedation or muscle relaxation. Zolpidem (Ambien) is great for sleep initiation, but may become less effective at sleep maintenance over time. It reminds me of triazolam (Halcion). Both drugs have a very short half life. Other Z drugs are probably better for sleep maintenance. I would try zolpidem first. That leaves zaleplon, zipiclone, eszopiclone, and zaleplon. "Z drugs" can be stopped abruptly without provoking a benzodiazepine-type withdrawal syndrome. Withdrawal rebound insomnia is the only withdrawal symptom I experienced coming off zolpidem. Weaning is fairly easy.
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