Posted by Simus on August 9, 2004, at 1:40:31
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying, posted by KaraS on August 8, 2004, at 15:10:57
> > I take 500mg quercetin every day (almost). I usually only take 1g of vitamin C a day, but when the allergies are bad I usually take 2-3g. I really should take 2-3g every day since C is so important to the recovery of the adrenals. I take 400-600mg of a good form of magnesium a day - usually 400mg though. By the way, allergies go along with adrenal fatigue, and with the horrible adrenal exhaustion I had last spring, I suffered from the worst allergies of my life.
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> Only 500 mg. of quercetin works that well? I'll definitely have to start taking it again.Well, it is a combination of things that helped with the allergies. Since I took vitamin C, quercetin and magnesium in unison, I honestly can't tell you that the quercetin alone was the key. And I don't know exactly what the optimum dosage is. (I did take Claritin also during the worst of it, so I obviously didn't find the total answer by natural means.
> My regimen includes mixed calcium/magnesium supplements that supply 400 mg. but I've been really bad about taking them since you have to take a minimum of 6 a day in order to get to 1000 mg. of calcium and 400 mg. of magnesium. (Funny but when I allow myself to take those little chocolate chews that taste like candy, I never have a problem filling my calcim requirement.)
If there was just one supplement I would recommend to people, it would be magnesium (with vitamin C being a close second). That's how strongly I feel about it. (But then I am no Larry.)
> > > > I am trying to get up the nerve to try some basic herbals like licorice. The herbals sound harmless, but I haven't always had good reactions to them so I am a little leary...
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> > > I am also apprehensive about trying things. It's scary. You just don't know how you're going to react and I always imagine the worst. I worry that I'll go into anaphylactic shock from each new supplement or medicine that I try. (I used to make sure I was around people when I first tried something new just in case.) Hope I haven't made you more fearful of trying things.
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> > Nope. I am the same way.
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> Do you go to the same extreme in thinking that you're going to go into shock the minute the pill goes down the hatch? I finally decided I didn't care if that happened - that i have to risk it because living the way I'm living just isn't worth it. That was a major turning point for me and I haven't looked back.It takes a lot of faith and prayer over something new, and even then it isn't "easy".
> > HA! Love your sense of humor!!!
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> That's because it's a lot like yours...LOL I have a very dry sense of humor - most people are either offended by it or just don't get it. It's not a very endearing feature. Sigh... How fortunate we are that we found each other!!! LOL
> I read over on the Administration board that a Psycho-Babble 6th year anniversary party is being planned (for next year I think?) in Chicago. Wouldn't that be interesting? I'd love to meet the people I've been conversing with - esp. you and Larry. Larry would be treated like a rock star. What an ego trip that would be!Ha! I can see it now... "WELCOME PSYCHOS" on the Mariott marquis... I have this strange mental image of something very similar to a "Star Trek" convention...
As an aside, I have always wondered if somewhere out there, there is a group of graduate students reading our posts like they are observing lab rats... Hmmm... I guess only Dr. Bob knows for sure...
> I did try Wellbutrin once (both capsule and pill form) and felt like I couldn't breathe on it. It was a strange reaction. I've tried lots of things but never had that feeling before. I may try it again. I was very bummed when I had to give it up because I felt that it had the potential to really help me.It sure isn't for everybody. As a matter of fact, most people on this site seem to use Wellbutrin as a supplemental med with an SSRI. I think that I managed to get over the initial side effects fairly easily because the Lexapro had me SOOOOO down and it "softened the blow" of the anxiety of the Wellbutrin.
> I had a cook-out to attend yesterday but didn't end up going. I got into the car but ended up heading back to bed. My friend is probably mad at me. I haven't had the nerve to call her yet. Oh if they only understood... (I'm putting her first on the list for our forced understanding treatment.)I understand that so well. Others can not possibly understand what our lives are like. At my lowest, I used to envy people with something like cancer. First and foremost, the people I know who have been diagnosed with malignant cancer have a trememdous will to live. I always envied that. Depression seems to immediately wipe out that instinctive fight to live (at least for me). I even envied cancer patients who died because their suffering was over (sorry to be so morbid, but that was depression talking). Then, cancer is something that people seem to understand, unlike mental illness. No one is likely to go up to a cancer patient and say, "You don't really have cancer. It is all in your head. Just make up your mind to not have cancer and you won't have it." But people don't seem to think twice about saying similar things to a depressed person. And cancer isn't a taboo subject. (Hope I wasn't too heavy there. But I have really been through it the past 10 years.)
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> Here's something to read if you want a laugh. It's an old post I found in the archives of this Alternative Board. Someone did a good job of making fun of us.
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> In reply to Re: Ame, Valerian/Other Remedies/DIY Herbal Extracts » McPac, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 11, 2003, at 1:21:18
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> Ame Sans Vie, your knowledge is dazzling. Herbs are the key. I experience great benefits from going out to my front yard and eating grass. I noticed Cletus, my beagle, doing it and figured why not give it a try. I watch him closely, animals have a keen sense of where the best sources are. He doesn't do it every day though. So I keep a quantity of prechewed grass frozen for those critical days. I think it is important not to wash off the ants or grit because Cletus doesn't. Natural substances are the way to go. Lately Cletus has been eating a lot of dried pigs ears. I suspect that the collagen and tannin content may be supporting nutritional deficiencies lacking in the modern diet. Boiling them over night makes them marvelously supple. Though I don't think you need to consume them. Drinking the water after it has cooled contains the essential extracts. For starters say five ears to the half gallon. You can build up from there. Drink it fresh. Prolonged refrigeration propagates iodine accumulation and unless you have a lot of activated charcoal on hand you know what that can lead to. I'm feeling better every day. I am anxious to see what Cletus starts eating next. The natural world has an embarrassment of mood elevating substances to teach us about. You are my inspiration, well you and Cletus.
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LOL There were times that I would have been on all fours grazing on the lawn if I thought it would have helped even a little. I would have moo'ed like a cow too if it would have helped. But doing that while being on psychiatric drugs might bring the padded wagon with the men in white coats. =)Have a great week,
Simus
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