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Re: First Time Med Free in Years...Need Help » Buckeye Fan

Posted by Larry Hoover on September 10, 2004, at 10:27:44

In reply to First Time Med Free in Years...Need Help, posted by Buckeye Fan on September 10, 2004, at 7:51:44

> Hi all,
> I was just wondering what the best non-prescription anti-depressant/anti-anxiety supplements anyone has tried?
>
> I read that something called ANXIETOL 7 is rated number one by Readers Digest, as the best Natural Supplement for anxiety/depression.
>
> http://store.medabiotics.com/anxietol7.html?gtse=goog>kw=anxietol%207
>
> I thought could handle things Med-Free....but am really struggling.
>
> Also....not to be picky, but money is a little tight right now, so before I spend the money on this...if someone who is thinking clearer than I could tell me something that is the same, but cheaper..I will try it.
> If not..I will try this stuff, at the retail price.
> I am getting to the point of REALLY needing help
>
> Thanks
> BF

I can't assess what's in it. They don't say what Sensoril is, for example, and calling e.g Griffonia extract (natural source of 5-HTP) Serotain (or do they?) is needlessly deceptive. See: http://store.medabiotics.com/anxietolinfo.html

You could easily pick up the ingredients separately, and much cheaper, at Walmart (all but the vinpocetine).

Moreover, the doses they supply are not as high as they might be. Furthermore, they only supply three of the B-vitamins, which are better taken in combination with all the B's (as B-complex).

If you want to save some money, and still give something like this a try, go to Walmart, and get the following:

B-100
Folic acid, 1 mg
B-12, 1,000 mcg
Vitamin C 1,000 mg
5-HTP, 50 mg
tyrosine, 500 mg
magnesium citrate, 100 mg (not oxide, anything else will do)
zinc 25-50 mg (whatever dose they have in that range)
selenium, 200 mcg
fish oil, 1,000 mg
vitamin D, 400 IU
vitamin E, 400 IU (whatever type is cheapest)
l-theanine (I think they might have this) 100 mg (optional)
Siberian ginseng (I prefer it to Panax) (whatever dose they have, I forget)

Morning, on arising, tyrosine, 2-4 tablets/caplets

Morning, with food, B-100 (1 tab), folic acid, B-12, vitamin C (1 tab), zinc, selenium, magnesium (1 tab), vitamin D, vitamin E, ginseng (as per label).

Lunch, with food, magnesium, vitamin C.

Dinner, with food, B-100, selenium, vitamin C.

Bedtime, 5-HTP (2-4 tabs), magnesium (3 tabs).

General notes: the magnesium might induce diarrhea, especially the triple dose. If so, reduce intake to whatever doesn't give you loose stools, and try increasing again after two weeks.

The fish oil should be taken with food, whenever you are otherwise taking in a fair bit of fats. So, with your largest meal, preferably fattiest meal. Target is no less than 5 caps a day, but split it up or take at once, whatever works/is tolerated. Just take it with food, and one vitamin E.

If at any time you feel particularly anxious, two supplements seem to have good efficacy. Those are niacinamide (500 mg, as needed, up to four times a day). And, taurine (1,000-2,000 mg).

This sounds like a lot of pills, and it is, but according to your description of symptoms, and your sense of need, you need to jump in with both feet.

More questions are welcomed. Go ahead and ask.

Lar

 

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