Posted by LOOPS on December 31, 2004, at 8:30:40
In reply to St. John's success and some thoughts, posted by barbaracat on December 29, 2004, at 18:21:52
Great post barbaracat!
I always found the powdered N American extracts too stimulating, and the high-quality German liquid extracts very relaxing, but not strong enough as anti-depressants.
I also took sjw with lithium, but it was lithium orotate (I got intense mood-swings - not sure if bipolar or not). I too found mixing different sources of sjw helpful. The first time I tried the wort, I wasn't taking the lith, and I got quite manic. Also I was not sleeping at all. Once I added the lith orotate in I calmed down and was more steady.
I didn't like Perika either. It made me very irritable and withdrawn, although it did help with depression, but not sociability. I found GNC standardized very similar - way too agitating.
I find the tea actually quite good for relaxing, but not for treating depression! However this was tea-bags, and I would love to try getting some fresh home-grown wort and infusing it. I have heard wonderful things about fresh wort, which would indicate an overall energy of the plant being important in effectiveness maybe.
I think this is why fresh tinctures are always raved about. I have heard HerbPharm is a good one, but I have never tried it - it is very expensive for just an ounce of extract, so would really tot up the gold for even a couple weeks continuous usage. But maybe it would carry a 'stronger energy'.
I also tried taurine for awhile, and I keep it for emergencies; however I did find after awhile it started making me impatient with other people. At the time I was taking it I wasn't eating any animal foods, just a lot of beans, rice and veggies (NEVER doing that one again!), so I probably had quite a deficiency going on as I don't think I'm very good at manufacturing it in my body.
If my fish oil stops working (I always dread that placebo possibility), I may try some of that flora wort - it sounds good.
Happy New Year
Loops
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