Posted by Larry Hoover on April 28, 2005, at 8:48:14
In reply to Article, posted by coach on April 27, 2005, at 12:42:13
> http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=169.
Hey coach. I feel like you are hurt or upset or something by my manner of discussing this treatment program. That's not what I'm trying to do at all.
If I may state my case simply, I hope you see that we're actually promoting the same mechanism of finding wellness.
Getting the right nutrients can heal mental illness. It is a fundamental core belief of mine, and I'm sure you'll find ample evidence on this board to support that.
With respect to NS and similar clinical entities....
I believe their nutrient plans work to relieve mental health issues.
I believe that urine testing is irrelevant to the effects of the nutrients on mental health, as even the proponents (those selling this testing) provide not a single shred of medical evidence that urine analysis tells us anything at all. Check the onsite references. There simply aren't any that apply to urinalysis.
Back to the core belief....the nutrients promote wellness. But, wellness would occur (or not), totally irrespective of whether anyone is measuring urinary excretion, or not. 90% of neurotranmsitter biochemistry occurs outside the brain, and the liver kicks in to deal with any excess floating around. Making urine a certain way does not translate into evidence that the brain has been made to be a certain way. It could simply mean your liver is working right.
I am far more interested in finding out how many patients get nice urine but are still unwell, or how many patients start feeling better but still have weird urine, or how many simply are not helped. Selecting out the success stories for publicity tells us nothing about efficacy. Failing to seek publication of trial data (Surely, with thousands of these urine tests on file, and all the subjects who supplied them, there's enought data to publish about even an open trial.) keeps me extremely sceptical. I've been published. It's not hard to get published. If I had something that worked, I wouldn't be keeping the data secret.
No, even the urine laboratory posts a major disclaimer on its website, that the concentrations of neurotransmitters and metabolites in urine is of no diagnostic value. If its of no diagnostic value, why is it being done?
Lar
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