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Re: More from the Macuna front » barbaracat

Posted by gromit on October 10, 2005, at 2:11:22

In reply to Re: More from the Macuna front » gromit, posted by barbaracat on October 6, 2005, at 13:32:02

> **Yeah, valium is depression in a pill for me too. Other benzos aren't quite as bad and I'll take lorazepam if I'm needing to chill. But sometimes they don't do a thing and if I take another I end up feeling edgy and uncomfortable. I have paradoxical reactions to a few meds but not consistently. Probably has something to do with what I've eaten and how it affects the cytochrome P-450 enzymes.

I didn't realize there was a big difference between the different benzos except for the half-life and xanax being completely different. Only tried valium for muscle tension and it was horrible. My doctor recently asked me if I was feeling less anxious when we had never discussed anxiety. My wife also says I seem nervous even though I don't really feel nervous. Can you be anxious and not realize it?

> **Ah, Ambien. Finally a sleeping med that does what it promises and lets you out of bed in the morning. I was taking it for 3 years, experienced some tolerance and towards the end before I quit needed 20mg. Quitting was very difficult. Talk about rebound insomnia! The whole time I was reducing it I got either no sleep or 3-4 hours max. Finally am off it and as long as things are quiet and conducive to sleep, I get to sleep, stay asleep and have a wonderfully vivid backlog of dreams that troll the psyche and entertain.

Yeah, thats exactly it, I need to be sleepy at bedtime but not all the next day too. So far no tolerance but it's only been a few months. Did you have any other problems besides insomnia?

> **Yes, it is puzzling. I'd guess that with the aminos, it's not a direct supplementing but a precursor thing where all sorts of other receptors are getting hit along the way, some of which may be too activating. The L-dopa is just that. No conversion, no uptake, just a direct hit of dopamine. But even so, dopamine is excitatory. I dunno, it still doesn't make sense.

Oh well. I'm just going to enjoy mucuna, not worry about why it works and hope our government doesn't decide to suddenly ban it. A direct hit of dopamine sounds like something they would like to outlaw.


Rick


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