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Histamine anxiety/suicidal ideation, please read

Posted by temoigneur on April 5, 2006, at 19:40:03

Hi This article really grabbed me, I fit about 80% of the characteristics.. from the same organization, the analyst, again the formatting and icons are deleted, and it may be difficult to follow at times.. here's the link.. If anyone has any experience with either of these conditions I'd love to know about it

I'm going to get tested for pyroluria and histamine levels at the lab recommended by the biochemist in previous post.. http://brightspot.org/biocenter

Any insights would be great..
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C446553.html

This condition, [histadelia] is characterized by low levels of serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine, high whole blood histamine and elevated absolute basophils. This population has a high incidence of seasonal allergies, OCD tendencies, perfectionism, high libido, sparse body hair, and several other characteristics. In severe cases involving psychosis, the dominant symptom is usually delusional thinking rather than hallucinations. They tend to speak very little & may sit motionless for extended periods. They may appear outwardly calm, but suffer from extreme internal anxiety.
Histadelia, is more common in males and is characterized by elevated blood levels of histamine. It is estimated that 15-20% of schizophrenics are probably histadelic. This is also known as an undermethylation problem or being under-methylated.

The treatment of histadelia requires great patience because six to ten weeks are often needed before the beginning of significant improvement. The treatment usually takes twelve months to complete. To find out more about this see Mental Illness: The Nutrition Connection, a book by Carl Pfeiffer. The prognosis is good if the histadelic patient cooperates with treatment and works to give up detrimental addictions.

Signs, symptoms & indicators of Histadelia (Histamine High):
Symptoms - Allergy Excess/using medication for allergy/ mucous Histamine can cause additional mucus production.

Symptoms - Environment
Good tolerance of cold
Poor tolerance of heat

Counter-indicators:
Good tolerance of heat
Poor tolerance of cold

Symptoms - Gas-Int - General
Unexplained nausea

Symptoms - General
Poor pain tolerance

Counter-indicators:
Good pain tolerance

Symptoms - Head - Mouth/Oral
Excess/abundant saliva in mouth

Counter-indicators:
(Very) dry mouth

Symptoms - Metabolic
Hyperactivity Histamine speeds up metabolism producing a tendency towards hyperactivity.

Frequent colds/flus

Symptoms - Mind - Emotional
Phobias

Counter-indicators:
A lack of phobias

Symptoms - Mind - General
Being highly motivated Those with elevated histamine (histadelics) tend to work compulsively.

A hard-driving personality Histadelics tend to work compulsively.

Good creativity/imagination Histadelics are often highly creative.

Symptoms - Reproductive - General
Strong sexual desire

Counter-indicators:
Weak sexual desire

Symptoms - Skeletal
Joint pain/swelling/stiffness

Symptoms - Skin - General
Excess perspiration
Warm skin

Conditions that suggest Histadelia (Histamine High):
Addictions Addictions / Addictive Tendencies Nutritional treatment for drug and alcohol users will depend on the results of a test for blood histamine levels. In one series of such analysis, all users proved to have high histamine levels, leading the scientist to conclude that this abnormality - with its impact on brain function - is a major force in creating addiction. [Nutrition Guide for the Prevention and Cure of Common Ailments and Diseases, Carlton Fredericks, PhD. p.58]

Allergy
Allergic Rhinitis / Hay Fever

Mental
Bipolar Disorder, Manic-Depressive About 35% of bipolar patients have high histamine levels.

Depression Histadelics are often chronically and suicidally depressed.

Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) Histadelics are often prone to obsessions, compulsions, and addictions.

Schizophrenia Histadelia, prominent in males, means too much histamine in the blood. Estimated to affect 15-20% of patients classified as schizophrenic. Symptoms include hyperactivity, compulsions, obsessions, inner tensions, blank mind episodes, phobias, chronic depression, and strong suicidal tendencies. Physical signs can include little tolerance for pain, rapid metabolism, lean build, profuse sweating, seasonal allergies, and frequent colds.

Metabolic
Headaches
Insomnia The overarousal seen in histadelia may contribute to insomnia.

Musculo-Skeletal
Muscle Pains (Myalgia)

Risk factors for Histadelia (Histamine High):
Symptoms - Gas-Int - General History of unexplained nausea

Symptoms - Skeletal
Slender fingers / toes Histadelics often have long fingers and toes.


Counter-indicators:
Stubby fingers / toes Histadelics often have long fingers and toes.


Recommendations for Histadelia (Histamine High):
Amino Acid / Protein Methionine Methionine supplements lower blood levels of histamine by increasing histamine breakdown.


Not recommended:
Histidine

Diet
Vegetarian/Vegan Diet Nutritionists recommend a low-protein, high complex carbohydrate diet. Histidine, which is more common in animal proteins, should be avoided as it can be converted into histamine.

Lab Tests/Rule-Outs
Test Copper Levels Testing serum or hair copper levels is usually adequate for evaluating copper status when low levels of copper are suspected and hair contamination with copper can be ruled out. When in doubt, it would be better to use more accurate tests such as the 24 hour urine copper or serum ceruloplasmin.

Test Histamine Levels
Test Folic Acid Levels Under certain conditions, such as anticipated or actual pregnancy, a simple lab test for serum folate levels is advisable. If the test results show low levels, supplementation should be considered to prevent potential birth defects.

Test Zinc Levels
Test for Manganese Levels

Mineral
Calcium
Magnesium
Manganese
Copper Copper levels may be low to normal in patients with histadelia. Copper is part of the enzyme histaminase, which is involved in the metabolism of histamine. Some suggest that copper should be avoided when bipolar symptoms are present. Testing will help confirm a person's status.

Nutrient
TMG (Tri-methyl-glycine) / SAMe

Not recommended:
Lecithin / Choline / GPC
DMAE

Vitamins
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)

Not recommended:
Vitamin Folic Acid Histadelics should avoid supplemental folic acid as it can produce excess histamine. In fact, anti-folate drugs may be required. Folic acid increases depression in histadelic patients and a trial of folic acid could be used to distinguish between histapenics and histadelics. In extreme cases, folic acid in food or in multivitamins is enough to produce the adverse effects.


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