Posted by Larry Hoover on July 31, 2007, at 8:28:07
In reply to Lar, Undermethylators and Folate, posted by Ron Hill on July 30, 2007, at 20:00:49
> Lar,
Ron! Long time no see, around these parts. Is Bob's block finally over?
> How are you doing my friend?
Not so good. Thanks for asking. This pain thingie is eroding my cognitive function and resiliency. I feel very old. And just a few weeks ago my computer crashed and I lost everything. If I ever meet Bill Gates in person, I'm likely to kick him in the cajones.
> Do you have time to look at a a few paragraphs and give me your assessment of their validity?
>
> Please, read the section titled "Methylation" in the following article, and tell me your assessment of the author's claim that undermethylators should minimize their intake of folate.
>
> http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshMP.htm#Met
>
> Lar, beware. It is a Pfeiffer Treatment Center article. I do not know how you feel about the Pfeiffer Treatment Center, but if the typos in the article are any indication of the quality of their "research", then I find it hard to put much stock in their "science".It may be called Pfeiffer, but it's Walsh running it. And Walsh ain't no Pfeiffer.
Given their diagnostic categorizations, I'm strongly undermethylated and overmethylated at the same time. It's hard to overcome my subjective bias in this instance, but it still informs me that what they say cannot hold true. And, if you read the article with a cynical eye, you'll note that they incorporate explanations for why their treatment might not work. Which it often doesn't.
With respect to folate, I cannot recommend that anyone avoid folate intake. Of all the B-vitamins, this is the one the vast majority are deficient in. Off the top of my head, it's more than 90% of Americans.
In any case, you can't use statistics to guide treatment. You have to do the experiment(s).
> But, on the other hand, perhaps their findings are completely correct, and should be taken very seriously.
Thought provoking is one thing. Experiment provoking is another.
> Whadda ya think, Lar? Should undermethylators avoid folate?
In a word, no. IMPNSHO.
> I found other sections of the article to be worth the read, but you only have so many hours in your day and, therefore, I can't be asking you to review the entire article.
>
> Thank you VERY much for your time. :-)You're welcome, dude. And welcome back.
> You da man, Lar. You da man.
>
> -- RonWell, if I'm da man, then mankind ain't looking so good. But thanks.
Lar
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