Posted by tea on December 28, 2009, at 2:52:46
In reply to Re: ldn for autoimmune, perhaps with depression?, posted by Phillipa on December 27, 2009, at 20:40:51
> Now the progesterone I'm on bioidentical creams of estrogren, progesterone, testosterone think good for bone health?
should be good.
I built up my bone density by hormones and exercise together with calcium and magnesium. I'm just borderline osteopenia now - I was worse in my 30's!)
I refuse to get any more bone scans as they do have dangerous amounts of radiation when compounded and I hadn't realised the danger- besides I just do everything I can and whatever the level is , It IS).Exercise is probably the most important factor together with the hormones and the minerals. Without the exercise bit nothing much will work:-) I forget now why but I went into the way it worked years ago. Also I tried carrying heany backpacks but that stuffed my knees , so dont do that one!
Sorry, since the car accident I haven't been able to research and my memory is poor but improving.
Just trying to concentrate on ldn for now (but I still need the female hormones unfortunately).
I trialled ldn back in March or April(just after I asked about it in this thread) and took until I had an opreration for suspected ovarian cancer (from scans).. But luckily there was nothing there when they opened me up:-) That was some panic and it sure made me realise I wanted to live!
As osteoporosis and doc wanted me on reclast Iv and the biophosphinates are horrible.I'm sorry I don't know anything about reclast IV , but I do agree on the bisphosphinates- I'd never take them no matter what, but I can't advise you of course;-)
What do you think of strotium with ca, mg, vita D3 & K? New supplement here called growbone.com. Take a look. Phillipa
I'll take a look one day when I get the energy and brainpower to understand it- however Ca, Mg, VitD3 work together and VitK is good for bone health. In Oz they are also pushing boron , (the ant poison). I noted they went thru this marketing phase in the US years ago.. Strotium would be a similar thing.
It's like this I guess. We do need all these minerals in trace amounts if they exist in the eart we would get some in our drinking water. However these days our drinking water is altered by the govtr (for "our" benefit of course), things like chlorine and fluoride are added and the water is filtered for bacteria and microorganisms etc but also the calcium , and probably magnesium and other minerals-iron definitely but probably all the trace minerals too are filtered to low levels. With Calcium is cause industry dont like limescale in their pipes, and iron stains the pools around here before they filtered it out..etc
So then we need to add back all the filtered out minerals. The trick is getting the correct balance which isn;t the same for everyone. Partly it depends on what you are used to where you and your ancestors grew up- the receptors are thought (by me and others) to have altered level s genetically to cope wiuth what the water contians in their environment.. move and you are in trouble! I sufferd from a severe lack of calcium and magnesium when I moved from Brisbane with "hard" water to Sydney and lost most of my teeth and developed the osteo over 15 years or so. My receptors were no doubt programmed for the hard water. O also got way too much iron in the water here (now its filtered), and the studpid docs just told me to take iron as I was pregnant...nothing about the calcium and magnesium which was LOW in the water here.. and I had all the side effects of too much iron for years until I figured it out.
Now I have just purchased a Mercola filter and , although it states it keeps at least some of the minerals via using Chloride to save on the carbon filters, I guess it has lowered the levels of all minerals even more than the water filtration by the water board has! I have needed to up my Calcium and magnesium a lot! (from once a month a so to once every 3 days or so)
So I figure any studies(without reading them) of any trace minerals where they deprive animals pof the trace mineral and then add it back in is always going to show the benefits of the trace mineral.. it's the amount though that is difficult to get right!
Pity the water board doesn't add back in the removed minerals , at least the ones mostly needed, and the trace elements up to certain levels if removed.(I realise some areas they do need to remove dangerous levels of some minerals)
But then people's pool water appearance and industries' pipes are way more important than people's health- or at least more obvious in effects!
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