Posted by floatingbridge on July 11, 2011, at 16:11:24
In reply to Re: Fish oil: Does anyone feel worse on it? » floatingbridge, posted by Hyena on July 11, 2011, at 13:28:51
Hyena, this information is really helpful. I didn't know the relationship between gaba or glutamate. I was given the L-glutamine at the same time as gaba. I can tolerate gaba fine.
I think I recall high glutamate levels found in a sub population of fibromyalgia nos patients. Some patients do better when avoiding additives like msg. I think this is related....
Thanks.
> yeah i had a terrible reaction to l-glutamine which is the precursor to the neurotransmitter glutamate. l-glutamine can be turned into either GABA which relaxes you or glutamate which excites neurons and can cause anxiety.
> Anyway I dont really know if fish oil might increase glutamate in some cases but the feeling i get when there is a bad reaction to fish oil is similar to what I get from l-glutamine.
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> > Glutamate? That's a supplement my gp reccommended (I think) and I had to stop. Headaches! Oh. L-Glutamine. Still....
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> > > > I just started taking Carlsons fish oil this week. I seem to feel that my depression worsens within an hour of dosing. Has anyone experienced anything like this? This morning was pretty bad.
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> > > I've been taking high EPA fish oil for several months now and it's almost completely obliterated my anxiety and depression. The only problem is that I can't take certain other supplements with it or it makes my depression worse. This is a small price to pay for me as the others never helped much anyway and I try to get all my other nutrients from a healthy diet.
> > > These are the supplements I've found to react badly with fish oil and that I now avoid:
> > > Vitamin b complex and b6 in particular
> > > Selenium
> > > Magnesium
> > > Manganese
> > > Rhodiola
> > > Any multivitamin/mineral
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> > > I don't know exactly why these cause a reaction but I think that they may raise glutamate when combined with fish oil. I say this because I get a very similar reaction when I take l-glutamine. It doesn't feel like normal depression for me. There's a paranoid feeling that comes with it.
> > > One thing I've found is if I lower the fish oil dose Incan tolerate some of the above sups. I usually take 1500mg of EPA but if I only take 1000mg I can take the others. The problem is 1000mg is not enough for me to get the full benefits of EPA.
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