Posted by Dena on March 6, 2003, at 13:48:32
In reply to Lou's reply to Dena's post-7K » Dena, posted by Lou Pilder on March 6, 2003, at 11:37:09
Lou,
I'm gong to attempt to reply to all three of your lastest postings to me, in an attempt to keep this simple. Speaking for myself alone, I find it overwhelming when you send multiple replies to my posts. Sending one at a time is more comprehensive to me.
You wrote in your first (of the latest three) posts: "I happen to consider the entire thread involving myself, Jon and you to be of great importance here, for it could establish a precedent in relation to the following:
A). Would it be permissible here to write that other's beliefes, such as the belife in the doctrine of purgatory, is an [...incorrect doctrine...myth...etc....]?
B). Would it be permissible here to claim that whatever anyone wrote, even if it is breach of the rules, could be sheltered by the poster claimimg that its intent was to be humorous?
C). Would it be permissible here to write what could be determined as a breach of the rules here to be shelterd from any discipline by claiming that the post was protected because it was a conversation between another poster?"I understand your concern better now. Thank you for elaborating. Perhaps these questions should be directed to Dr. Bob.
You wrote in your second (of the latest three) post: "You wrote,[...each person has the ability to choose to take offense or let things go...].
If you are making an absolute statement that [each] is equivalant to [evry], then you are saying that every person has that choice. Now if that is what you are writing, then are you saying that evry person here also can make other choices and that no one has a [compulsion] to do anything?"Yes, I stand on my belief that every person has a choice. Each human being has the gift of free will. The people you mentioned who were suffering from compulsions no longer under their control, made poor choices back in their histories that enslaved them to their compulsions. I speak from experience here; I was enslaved to bulimia for 21 years. I made choices earlier in my life to believe lies that led to the bulimia. While I was enslaved by bulimia, I didn't FEEL as if I had any choices - but the earlier choices I'd made had consequences, among them becoming enslaved to bulimia. I became free from the compulsion of bulimia when God showed me the lies I had been believing & He graciously replaced those lies with His perspective of truth. Then I had free will again (i.e., the choice) to continue to believe the lies I was more "comfortable" with, or to accept the truth He revealed to me. I chose the truth, & I became free from the compulsion.
But back to my original point, regarding offense, offenses come our way every day in small and large ways. I have the choice, we all have the choice, to "take on the offense", or to surrender it. If you say you don't like the way I write, or that my opinions sound ridiculous, I can "own" what you said about me & take it personally, or I can choose to let it go. If someone says something in an offhand way that seems to be insulting to me, I can either choose to presume they didn't mean to offend me, or I can choose to "court offensiveness". I used to "court rejection", meaning I was so used to being rejected in my past, that I transferred or superimposed that rejection onto whatever anyone else said to me. No matter what they said, or what they intended, I could "find" rejection. For me, a healing came when I realized deep in my heart that God loved & accepted me, & that rejection from others, real or imagined, couldn't touch me.
In your third (of the latest three) post, you wrote: "So if there is a rule here , I believe that all should be required to abide by it. If one person is allowed to not be required to abide by a rule here and another person is required to abide by the rule, then the one person that is required to abide by the rule is having a higher standard of performance imposed upon him/her than the one that does not have to abide by the rule."
I agree - we must all be held accountable by the rule(s) of this board in order to participate on this board. Again, I suggest that this should be taken to Dr. Bob to decide if Jonathan &/or I violated the rule(s).
Please, if you can, could you respond to this post with just one post of your own, so that I can communicate with less confusion. Thank you.
Shalom, Denea
poster:Dena
thread:200824
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20021227/msgs/206508.html