Posted by fires on January 5, 2006, at 11:45:17
In reply to Re: Do me a favour? » fires, posted by alexandra_k on January 4, 2006, at 18:01:55
> Hey. I want to thank you for posting about the studies. They have got me thinking...
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> I was reading something last night...
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> And I was talking to Larry earlier about...
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> Whether by imagining...
> (As opposed to talking to yourself)...
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> You can change your reinforcement history.
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> So...
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> I'm wondering about two seperate ideas.
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> 1) Telling yourself you experienced nausea after eating a certain kind of food as a kid...
> 2) Vividly imagining yourself experiencing nausea after eating a certain kind of food as a kid...My opinion: It wouldn't work. Also, if you read the studies about most implanted memories, a contagion element is nearly always included. included. The contagion phenomena took place in the McMartin preschool case, and was *knowingly* used by social workers as a technique to get children to agree with the molestation stories.
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> And I wonder how much odour would facilitate that process..If you read about MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities), it dosen't take any odor in some individuals. Some have responded to sham exposures to formaldehyde and other substances. Suggestion was enough to illicit a response.
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> Anyways... It has got me thinking.
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> On abuse...
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> > I first became aware of FMS when families were being torn apart by seemingly well intentioned, but horribly wrong/misguided therapists.
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> Yes. That does happen. Cases have been documented.
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> But on the other hand... Some people speak out about abuse and other people don't believe them. Other people put it down to a false memory when it is not.Allegations with third party substantiation generally are believed. Also, memories that have always been presented are. "Recovered " memories have been shown to generally be false.
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> Of course the situation isn't either
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> ALL cases of alleged abuse are true
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> ALL cases of alleged abuse are false
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> Some are true and some are false
> But even that is too simplistic
> Some are true in these respects and false in these others
> And so on.
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> I wondered whether you might have had false allegations against you or someone you know.
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> I am glad that is not the case.
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> But yes. It happens to some people.
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> And I think that just as we should be careful not to deny peoples reports of abuse...
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> We should be careful not to wholeheartedly embrace peoples reports of abuse either...
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> The point is...
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> The person is hurting.
> In the present...
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