Posted by garnet71 on June 18, 2009, at 19:24:17
In reply to Evidence-based practices: CBT, posted by Amelia_in_StPaul on June 18, 2009, at 0:00:04
Hey Amelia-It's always nice talking to you. I can't help but notice you are triggered about psychoanalysis. Having PTSD myself, and still being triggered here and there, I can see it so clearly. I can almost hear the hypervigilence coming from your words-so strongly I can hear your words as a voice-and your reaction sounds so familiar to me. It's almost as if I can feel that PTSD anxiety in your words. Do you think that is accurate? I'm so sorry you have had a bad reaction from it. I can see how being in the wrong hands could be dangerious. I think that is an important issue to discuss here and anywhere.
CBT never did anything for me, personally. Most of my emotions are repressed, which I believe, is the source of my behavior and neurosis. I relived some of those emotions, however, through a relationship which triggered the PTSD from childhood. I remained intact, but that was the least stable period of my life. Even after all the childhood trauma, I was stable from my teen years to almost age 30, until that relationship started. I had some dysfunction, but not depression and barely anxiety, though remember having it some times. Was very productive and seen as someone who 'had it all together'. I was not, however, in many long relationships with men; mostly casually dated. So i think that illustrates how childhood emotions need to be processed for me, in that I only became unstable after a relationship that triggered everything I had never dealt with.
I can also see how the relationship with these 2 types of therapists can be very important to people. I think many people really benefit from the warm fuzziness of CBT or talk therapists, but I don't. I spent hours in offices just talking to therapists. They were my 'freind'. I don't need that warm mushy stuff. I don't need a friend - I need a healer. I want someone authoritive. It must be difficult for some to deal with the total lack of self-disclosure from some analysts, the coldness of blank state. I like it because I want to work solely with the transference to allow me to discover the sources of my behavior, t houghts, and neurosis in a very isightful way facilitated by my unconsciousness. Rarely has a CBT therapist given me much insight. And CBT seems like common sense to me, like I already instinctually do it quite often. When emotions are repressed and so buried, however, the lack of even knowing and feeling these emotions exist prevents true healing, for me, imo. With CBT, they are still going to be repressed-still an underlying source for neurosis. I guess many do not buy those theories, that's ok with me, but i do. With the emergence of these emotions can come a catharthesis-I've already felt it starting.
But I'm glad you are discussing this type of therapy so others can learn. I just don't agree with the significance of that research, much like other research. For therapy, i think one has to go by their personal preferences and what's best for them, rather than what is perceived to be affective with others. I've also read about EMDR being effective for PTSD.
I totally agree with what Alexandria said too. Hey, I was never interviewed by any researcher to assess my positive reaction. There are only 3000 true psychoanalysts in the US, if i read correctly. It takes 4 more years after medical school or PhD obtainment to gain this certification. That's a huge investment. Not only that, anlysists have to undergo psychoanalysis themselves for a certain time period, adding to the whole process. There is not a huge sample here to research and maybe scattered throughout the US. I don't want to see the field die out, that's for sure.
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