Posted by utopizen on August 7, 2005, at 8:50:15 [reposted on August 8, 2005, at 10:24:27 | original URL]
No drug, including Heroin, is addictive. If it were, that suggests there's a pathology to it all, which there isn't. Isn't not even a mental disorder, but a symptomology, if you scrutinize the DSM-IV (this is ellaborated in the book, "Addiction is a CHOICE")
Heroin takes 6 days to go off of completely. Methadone takes 6 months.
Stop believing these drug researchers reinforcing your habituation by making you feel powerless to drugs. Your brain does not force your hand to ingest medicine into itself. It's a conscious choice you make while you are aware of your surroundings. Not until AA was founded by religious zealots that the word "addiction" entered a negative light.
In other words, nothing's your fault, except taking substances. There's no such thing as "chemical dependency" either. People might need some Klonopin to prevent seizures during withdrawl, but that's it. I've taken lots of methamphetamine from my doctor, for years, and not once have I ever become "dependent" on it. People who use that word couldn't even explain to you what the heck it means. It's like someone using the word "instictual."
[Birds fly South for the winter out of instinct = I have no clue, but hopefully that makes you think I answered your question, son."]
And if I hear the word "neurotoxic" one more time, I will scream.
We still are figuring out at what level corrosive metals are toxic to the body, let alone the brain. And people think they can figure out if METH is neurotoxic?
How the heck do you control THAT study? Does it not dawn on anyone meth users tend not to eat, sleep, become malnourished, never exercise, etc., which they typically would do whether they took meth or not (e.g., truck drivers)?
And am I the only one who realizes that neurons have extremely short half-lives? And that methamphetamine's primary mechanism of action is to prolong a neuron's half life?
The neurons are restored in sleeping, eating, and absitence from the meth. That said, if anyone here thinks meth on the street is actually meth, they probably deserve to get messed up in it. I just take it for ADD like lots of people do these days.
So if I hear one more post about "neurotoxicity" in a drug, please for my own sanity note that "toxicology itself is a very primitive science, and neurotoxicity is confined to rodent experiments alone."
Researchers have already admitted MDMA and METH are far more different in their affect to the brain than they are in humans.
There is no way to measure neurotoxicity in a human brain. You'd have to work with primate animals, and that neglects the fact that primates trapped in cages all day tend to enter depressed states, which is known to lead to brain atropy. (Hence, the cause of holes in the brains of apes brain scans showed after MDMA was ingested).
Don't do drugs, but if you think you're "addicted" to benzos, alcohol, or amphetamines, keep in mind the only real thing anyone's addicted to in this case is loneliness, meaningless lives, and living without a vocation to call their own.
Drugs become the make-up for the hallow men we all are.
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