Posted by bulletproofair on January 5, 2007, at 23:20:34
In reply to Re: Suboxone vs. Subutex...same effect/no naltrexo » Declan, posted by Declan on October 16, 2006, at 15:38:50
I'm currently attending a methadone clinic and am on 110mg's of methadone once daily.
from my knowledge of subutex/subuxone, the latter (subuxone) i know contains naltrexone, an opiate antagonist i believe. this means that if there are any opoids attached to your "mu" receptors in your brain (receptors the opiates attach to for the most part) the naltrexone's job is the yank those suckers straight out of your receptors, sending you into immediate withdrawals.
My advice to you is to COMPLETELY detox from methadone, or if you wanna feel pretty bad for a good couple weeks, start the subuxone at about 5mg's to 8mg's. I SERIOUSLY don't think it would be safe to still have methadone in your system and start on subuxone. Bad idea all together.
Hope that helps. I'm somewhat knowledgable with my opiates....but I'm no doc. I surely recommend this and if you were I, I would completely detox from methdaone before I started on subuxone due to the instant withdrawals that will occur.
Also keep in mind that if you hurt yourself at some point while on subuxone, you will be unable to take subuxone and opiates (pain meds) at the same time because of the instant withdrawal effect. You'd have to just take the pain meds, which would be ok, because from my understanding, subuxone is not physically addictive.
Altogether, I've heard glory stories that subuxone works VERY well, but its costs more and in some areas of the US it is hard to come across. Keep in mind it does cost more though.
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