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Re: Questions

Posted by PHV on September 30, 2003, at 19:15:14

In reply to Questions, posted by cateyes on September 30, 2003, at 7:15:33

> My fiance has panic attacks & the dr just prescribed Lexapro........I'm slightly concerned about side effects of this drug as well as liquor effects. can anyone tell me if it is alright to drink while on this, a few beers or does he not take the Lexapro if he knows he will be drinking later on.
>
> Thanks

I take 10 mg of Lex for depression and have had anxiety as a side effect of the Lex recently. I have continued a moderate social drinking schedule - after discussing in detail w/ my doctor - and I have noticed no difference. Moderation is KEY - one glass of wine with dinner - one or two beers and that's it. These drugs definately aren't something you'd want to mix lots of alcohol with . . .

 

Re: oldhand » Esmarelda

Posted by oldhand on September 30, 2003, at 20:37:55

In reply to Re: oldhand » oldhand, posted by Esmarelda on September 30, 2003, at 13:54:58

> What does adding the Wellbutrin to Lex do for you that just Lex, alone, does not?? I used to take Wellbutrin some years ago, and now just take Lex. Thanks.

Hi Es,
So far I think the Wellbutrin is helping my energy level, my patience and my general sense of well-being. I was feeling short-tempered and since I live with my elderly parents and try to help when I can, this was not good. I feel comfortable in this skin and alittle more like "me".
Peace,
Shelley

 

re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro

Posted by friendofbillw on September 30, 2003, at 22:09:08

In reply to re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro » lil' jimi, posted by gail_jo on September 2, 2003, at 1:20:49

> > hi OceanMist!
> >
> > > Hello again all,
> > > My doctor gave me a script for Wellbutrin SR 150mg, to curb the side effects of the Lexapro, and said to take it in the evening....
> > > My pharmasist gave me zyban, and said it was the same thing.
> > > Can you all tell me....Is there a difference?
> > > I heard there are major insomnia with this, bad enough I have it with my Lexapro, that is why I take it in the A.M. and here she wants me to take it in the Evening?
> > > I am only on my 4th day on the "Zyban" and notice no difference at all, unlike with the Lexapro I notice big changes immediately.
> > > Thanks
> > >
> >
> > i have to hope other folks will let us in on their Wellbutrin experiences .... .... or we may have to go looking for them ... ... there are more than a few folks using lex with Wellbutrin .... this is such a common approach that it sometimes goes by its own name "WellLex" ... or something like that anyway ...
> > ... ... however, i have no experience with wellbutrin, although my wife took it for a while a long time ago ....
> >
> > ... meanwhile, i looked up Zyban and found out it is the brand name for Bupropion labeled for smoking cessation, but not to worry ... looking up Wellbutrin reveals it is the brand name for, you guessed it, Bupropion, labeled for ... mental health .... so they are the same.
> >
> > take care!
> > ~ jim
>
> Have been reading this thread for a while and learning a lot. I have been taking Wellbutrin SR 300mg/day for one year, mostly to help with what I thought was minor depression and to help with weight loss. In the meantime my daughters (21 and 18) have both been diagnosed (by a psychiatrist at my insistence)with ADD and depression. The youngest one also possibly with bipolar II. Well. That explained a lot - they are young adults and quite successful, but their paths have always been strewn with difficulties. After doing intensive research, I've come to realize that there is much familial contribution from both my husband's family (ADHD)and my own (depression and possibly bipolar stuff)
>
> I discontinued the Wellbutrin during the discovery phases of my daughters' diagnoses, thinking I didn't really notice much of an effect so probably didn't need it. Wow! The stress of everything must have just tipped me over into a major depression. So I had a heart to heart with my family physician (not the psych doc - no mental health coverage with our medical plan) and he started me on Lexapro 10 mg/day in addition to resuming the Wellbutrin (150 mg once a day for the first week, then twice a day with a minimum of 8 hrs between doses thereafter.
>
> Have had some SE's, but smooth sailing seems to be the case now. The Wellbutrin tends to help me focus and stay on top of my day while staying pretty calm, then I take the Lexapro in the early evening and sleep very well, much better than I have for a long time. I had been using Melatonin 3mg at the Rx of a naturopath which really did help get me to sleep, but didn't stay asleep all night. I've discontinued it as the Lexapro seems to be helping in that area.
>
> I've gained some weight back, but attribute that to a knee injury that has sidelined my cardio/weight training program for a while.
>
> Keep up the thread, it's so helpful to hear how others are handling their health/meds.
>
> If anyone else has experience with lexapro and wellbutrin sr in combination, I would really like to hear from you.
>
> Thanks!
> gail_jo


I'm just starting the lexapro wellbutrin combination and will post a follow-up. My doc wants me to up the lexapro to 20mg and add the wellbutrin. I think I'll stay at 10mg and see how I do with the combo and up as needed. I want to be able to see how they work together without the comibnation of two new things at once (more lex and adding wellbutrin.)

I also wanted to address that yes, Wellbutrin and Zyban can't be taken at the same taken. I'm surprised that your doctor would recommend that you take it at night. You might want to make sure that you got the instructions right. I take lexapro at night because it does make me too sleepy, but wellbutrin at night sounds wrong. Check into and good luck.


>

 

re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro

Posted by theo on September 30, 2003, at 22:48:49

In reply to re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro, posted by friendofbillw on September 30, 2003, at 22:09:08

I'm taking 150mg of Wellbutrin XL, the new once a day extended version (was taking the SR prior XL) and 5mg of Lexapro. The reason they came out with the once a day Wellbutrin XL is so you take one dose in the morning, to avoid an afternoon dose which can cause insomnia. I called Glaxo and they said the SR is meant to take twice a day. I'm no doctor, but when you are taking both Wellbutrin and Lexapro together you are supposed to take them together as one "combo" in the morning. I've heard this from my pdoc and regular doc. I've been taking the Wellbutrin about 6 weeks and just added the Lexapro a little over a week ago.

 

re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro

Posted by ginger C on October 1, 2003, at 9:51:02

In reply to re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro, posted by theo on September 30, 2003, at 22:48:49

I have been taking wellbutrin 200mg in the morning and 10mg lexapro at night but have found it hard to sleep so I started taking the lexapro in the morning with the wellbutrin and I am sleeping much better.

 

here's a new wrinkle

Posted by mph-speedy on October 1, 2003, at 15:08:28

In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48

On lex for a little over 3 months and am starting to be awakened by very vivid dreams. Nothing exciting - too much like reality - work scenarios, etc. - boring, but so real; it's like being awake. Whew!

Hadn't been dreaming or remembering any dreams for some time before lex. Any thoughts on this?

speedy

 

re: vivid dreams » mph-speedy

Posted by lil' jimi on October 1, 2003, at 15:22:43

In reply to here's a new wrinkle, posted by mph-speedy on October 1, 2003, at 15:08:28

hi speedy,

> On lex for a little over 3 months and am starting to be awakened by very vivid dreams. Nothing exciting - too much like reality - work scenarios, etc. - boring, but so real; it's like being awake. Whew!
>
> Hadn't been dreaming or remembering any dreams for some time before lex. Any thoughts on this?
>
> speedy

vivid dreams are a documented side effect (transitory) of lexapro ... ... our dream centers want to test the new multimedia abilities from lexapro ... ... for some folks these can be bad, like night terrors ... or otherwise disturb sleep ... but since these are lex SEs, they should fade .. ...
i had this for a little while within the 1st month, while i was still on 5mg ...

although we always want to keep the prescribers informed about any SEs ... (i'd tell 'em) ... i wouldn't let this one worry you too much ... especially since they seem innocuous ...

thanks for you post ...
take care,
~ jim

 

Re: here's a new wrinkle

Posted by PHV on October 1, 2003, at 18:35:50

In reply to here's a new wrinkle, posted by mph-speedy on October 1, 2003, at 15:08:28

I've been on Lex for almost three months as well and have been having extremely vivid dreams for nearly one month now. Yes, they wake me up often in the middle of the night and are generally about real events and people in my day to day life. I was initially spooked as I started Lex for depression after losing three very special people in my life w/in the past year. I often dream about talking to them in the afterlife - telling them how much I miss them and how difficult it has been for me since they died. Reading that others have vivid dreams too, I think that's more where these dreams are coming from - rather than perhaps part of the grieving process. Best of luck. Patty

 

Re: lexapro and acupuncture » melley

Posted by EscherDementian on October 1, 2003, at 19:50:31

In reply to lexapro and acupuncture, posted by melley on September 28, 2003, at 16:47:42

Thanx, Melley :)

I was infact wondering about acupuncture and meds effect on each other. I have recently seen a Homeopath MD, who perscribed a homeopathic remedy that will not be affected by the SSRI and Adderall that i take. It seems to be doing me some encouraging good, and i was wondering about acupuncture...

See ya in the Psycho-Babble Alternative lists?
May i ask you more about it?

Escher
has meridians in hyperspace

 

Redirect: lexapro and acupuncture

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 2, 2003, at 18:33:30

In reply to Re: lexapro and acupuncture » melley, posted by EscherDementian on October 1, 2003, at 19:50:31

> See ya in the Psycho-Babble Alternative lists?

Here's a link:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20030903/msgs/265023.html

Bob

 

Embarassing Question

Posted by PHV on October 2, 2003, at 20:58:37

In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48

Anyone notice a strange SE of Lex of being rather "gassy??!!"

 

re: flatulence

Posted by lil' jimi on October 2, 2003, at 21:14:22

In reply to Embarassing Question, posted by PHV on October 2, 2003, at 20:58:37

hi Patty,

there have been posts about this before ... i can go look for them if you'd like ...

although i didn't have nausea nor diarrhea, i did feel like everything about my digestive system went through a big transition with lexapro ...

... but i didn't notice any increased emission ... but my normal level may be beyond any effect from lex ...

(TMI !! jim!)

sorry ...
take care there,
~ jim

p.s.
now i can just see the replies i might get ...
"Re: Flatulence ! >> lil' jimi "
... how fun !
~ j

 

re: flatulence

Posted by PHV on October 2, 2003, at 21:40:47

In reply to re: flatulence, posted by lil' jimi on October 2, 2003, at 21:14:22

Well Jim . . . maybe Lex just enhances it for us! Gotta love the honesty that goes on here in this message board!

Thanks!

Patty

 

re: flatulence

Posted by PHV on October 2, 2003, at 21:42:45

In reply to re: flatulence, posted by lil' jimi on October 2, 2003, at 21:14:22

By the way . . . nothin like a good "fart" joke to make me laugh! My sick mind!

 

re: flatulence

Posted by lil' jimi on October 3, 2003, at 1:14:24

In reply to re: flatulence, posted by PHV on October 2, 2003, at 21:42:45

Patty,

you are my friend !
~ jim

p.s.
should be a transitory se, right ?
... and

... humor is an antidepressant
...
... some forms of humor more than others ?
... isn't that what LMAO means ... ?
...
... HA!

take care,
~ j

 

re: flatulence » lil' jimi

Posted by galkeepinon on October 3, 2003, at 2:35:07

In reply to re: flatulence, posted by lil' jimi on October 3, 2003, at 1:14:24

heya jim!!!:-)I got a post in my email and I tried to respond, but I guess since I haven't posted in a few weeks, I may have to update my registration. Anywaaaaayyyyyyy, here's what I wrote, it was in regards to 'flatulence' and gas on Lex:-)
heheheh
>>>Hi Patty, I had a little gas in the beginning of my Lexapro treatment, unless it becomes terribly bothersome, maybe take an OTC gas aid? I hope that would help ya. It's ok to pass gas ya know, actually it helps keep the bloating down:-)
I wish I could do it more often.
(((((jim)))))
hey buddy:-)
I know........TMI!!!!!!!!
but I had to post when I saw this. hehehe
hope you 2 are doing well, hoping to get back to the board real soon.
hugs and to the emails I received here from some of the posters~thank you:-), you know who you are;)
hugs,
galkeepinon
Ha!!!!
How are you??????? I hope all is well!

 

Just say F-A-R-T~we all gotta have humor;) (nm)

Posted by galkeepinon on October 3, 2003, at 2:36:36

In reply to re: flatulence » lil' jimi, posted by galkeepinon on October 3, 2003, at 2:35:07

 

Something smells fishy over here (nm) » lil' jimi

Posted by Chicklet on October 3, 2003, at 6:24:16

In reply to re: flatulence, posted by lil' jimi on October 3, 2003, at 1:14:24

 

Re: Something smells fishy over here Dr. Bob

Posted by vandy on October 3, 2003, at 8:02:58

In reply to Something smells fishy over here (nm) » lil' jimi, posted by Chicklet on October 3, 2003, at 6:24:16

I knew Lexapro was a gas!

But you better be careful on this subject. Dr. Bob will probably ask you to take it to PsychoBabble Farting Abuse!

 

Re: Embarassing Question » PHV

Posted by Kacy on October 3, 2003, at 9:04:54

In reply to Embarassing Question, posted by PHV on October 2, 2003, at 20:58:37

On a more serious note, I had that problem with Effexor starting in the third month, and had rarely had a problem with gas. Before, I could handle almost every food with ease.

My doctor couldn't believe that this side effect was going to be a deal breaker for the drug, but it was. I did some research. The first suspect is white flour. Oh, yeah…the grocery store had two-for-one Lean Cuisines or somesuch brand and I had been eating those pastas all month. White pasta in overcooked, preprocessed foods and snri's don't go together well. I dropped the meals and the problem was over.

Avoid white pasta, keep white flour to a bare minimum, and drop any food that causes the problem. Molasses-based (instead of corn syrup-based) licorice caused the problem. So did the usual suspect–refried beans. I just don't eat those things and I'm back to my usual self, thank God. That was terrible.

On the other hand, the bing cherries I always had to keep to a limit didn't cause a problem anymore.

 

re: Emissions

Posted by lil' jimi on October 3, 2003, at 9:16:08

In reply to Re: Embarassing Question » PHV, posted by Kacy on October 3, 2003, at 9:04:54

hi Kacy,

i have heard the Atkin's diet has offered relief from flatulence ... ... which seems surprising to me ...

but this would be consistent with your post too

take care,
~ jim

 

re: Something smells fishy over here » Chicklet

Posted by lil' jimi on October 3, 2003, at 9:22:25

In reply to Something smells fishy over here (nm) » lil' jimi, posted by Chicklet on October 3, 2003, at 6:24:16

zShee-clay!!

oooo la la
great to see you!

oh, that?
sorry ...
... sometimes those omega 3 oils will come back on me like that ! ... darn it !
.... HA!

see ya at social?
~ jim

p.s. i have been on 10mg of lexapro, but the Texas Air Quality Control Board has yet to arrest me ... ...
... yet!
... HA!

 

re: Something smells fishy over here

Posted by mph-speedy on October 3, 2003, at 10:37:32

In reply to re: Something smells fishy over here » Chicklet, posted by lil' jimi on October 3, 2003, at 9:22:25

Thought it was just the beans I was eating!! Not really - this has been a problem for me - lots of it and not just SBD - leave the room noisy! The price you pay.

speedy

 

Re: Lex and 'flatulence~~~~Let's just call it a FART;) » galkeepinon

Posted by Searchlight on October 3, 2003, at 11:11:25

In reply to Lex and 'flatulence~~~~Let's just call it a FART;), posted by galkeepinon on October 3, 2003, at 1:15:43

I was on Lexapro for a while, but it made my stomach hurt something fierce (even at 5mg, and I usually have to take high doses of any anti-depressant to get any relief) so I quit after 3 months. No gas though (tee hee). I think Lex really does a big # on the stomach/gatrointestinal unlike any of the others I have tried- and I have tried several.

 

re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro

Posted by cmonfo on October 3, 2003, at 16:34:11

In reply to re: Wellbutrin and Lexapro, posted by ginger C on October 1, 2003, at 9:51:02

i've just been perscribed the 2 by my new doctor... i took the lexapro around 9:30 last night (for the first time).. and here's what happened:
I had tremors...
red eyes large pupils..
i was freaked out... (like being on shrooms w/out the hallucinations)
i sweat a bit... (dunno if it was because of lexapro)
was nauseated....
a bit dizzy....
kind of felt like i had tunnel vision...

so i smoked some pot to calm myself... big mistake
freaked out even more... (seriously freaked i dunno why, it sucked)
even more nauseated...
more shivvering...
increased hear beat.. i think i dunno..
i went to bed and woke up feeling almost just as messed up...

so far I HATE LEXAPRO and i'm not taking my wellbutrin until i see the doctor about what the hell went on w/ the lexapro..

-- and if somehow i AM convinced by my doctor to keep taking lexapro and start on the wellbutrin-- does anyone know if either of the 2 will stunt my animating/artistic abillities (coordination, steady hand, imagination, sense of shape, desire to create art).. that's serious question.. that is what i want to do w/ my life and i'd rather be a manic depressive and retain my skills than to give em up to live a mediocer life.. if anyone has any information that'd be really really great...
-C. monfo


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