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Posted by pullmarine on October 1, 2000, at 4:43:47
I wanna stop my pills, and i don't care what happens. I'm sick of being medicated. sick of being 40 lb overweight. sick of living a life that has no meaning. I'm sick of everything. I'm sick and tired of my brain. sick and tired of people, sick and tired of society. I feel like saying f-uck the world. and I hope that I die and that death will come soon, you may follow my casket on a pale afternoon.
Therapy doesn't help, pills suck, and life is a real B-tch no matter how many pills one takes. The only comfort is sleep, but the problem is, sooner or later, you have to wake up.
Camus wrote:metro, boulot, dodo (metro, job, sleep), refering to the tediousness of life. and 'plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose (the more things change, the more they are the same). How true!
How I look forward to finally being at peace. How I look forward to non-existance. I really can't wait for it. I wish I could make it come tonight. go to bed and not awake, ever again.
I smoke, and when I do, I enjoy every puff, knowing it shortens my life. I hold it in as long aas I can, trying to cause as much damage as possible, hoping that if I get cancer, they will finally help me die.
Posted by SLS on October 1, 2000, at 6:35:49
In reply to I've had enough!!!, posted by pullmarine on October 1, 2000, at 4:43:47
See above.
- Scott
Posted by JohnL on October 1, 2000, at 8:40:55
In reply to I've had enough!!!, posted by pullmarine on October 1, 2000, at 4:43:47
Geez, I know how you feel! Couldn't have said it better myself! Boy do I know that feeling.
Hey, this will seem impossible to believe, but it's true...there IS light a the end of the tunnel and the suffering DOES end.
How? Not just medication. And not how much medication. But the RIGHT medication. There is a definite chemistry causing your feelings, and whatever meds your doctor has tried on you have not corrected those faulty chemistries. That's all. That's all there is to it. The pills you're taking do indeed suck, because they aren't the right ones.
Tell me, what medications have you tried, and what were the results with each? Maybe we can figure this thing out. We can kill the beast. Don't let it get the best of you just yet. Also, call your doctor today. Tell him/her your frustration.
For the fastest relief of a crisis situation, I would hope your doctor will immediately prescribe you Ritalin (1st choice), Adderall (2nd choice); and Xanax or Stelazine for calmness and sleep. We can always work on longer term medications later, but for right now we need immediate help. That is most reliably found in the psychostimulant class. For proof in writing that you can show to your doctor, go to Dr Bob's Tips and do a search on stimulants. You'll find a discussion of stimulants for depression. In it you'll see how some very prominent doctors at prestigious institutions prefer stimulants for fast relief of crisis depression. Print and march into your doc's office immediately.
John
Posted by tina on October 1, 2000, at 13:12:25
In reply to Re: I've had enough!!!, posted by JohnL on October 1, 2000, at 8:40:55
Sounds to me like it's more than just a meds problem. Personal opinion but I think you need some therapy, LOTS of therapy. Try getting off the drugs. Maybe that's what you need? Clarity can come from ridding your body of the chemicals that swim around in there. You can't feel worse than you do now right?
> Geez, I know how you feel! Couldn't have said it better myself! Boy do I know that feeling.
>
> Hey, this will seem impossible to believe, but it's true...there IS light a the end of the tunnel and the suffering DOES end.
>
> How? Not just medication. And not how much medication. But the RIGHT medication. There is a definite chemistry causing your feelings, and whatever meds your doctor has tried on you have not corrected those faulty chemistries. That's all. That's all there is to it. The pills you're taking do indeed suck, because they aren't the right ones.
>
> Tell me, what medications have you tried, and what were the results with each? Maybe we can figure this thing out. We can kill the beast. Don't let it get the best of you just yet. Also, call your doctor today. Tell him/her your frustration.
>
> For the fastest relief of a crisis situation, I would hope your doctor will immediately prescribe you Ritalin (1st choice), Adderall (2nd choice); and Xanax or Stelazine for calmness and sleep. We can always work on longer term medications later, but for right now we need immediate help. That is most reliably found in the psychostimulant class. For proof in writing that you can show to your doctor, go to Dr Bob's Tips and do a search on stimulants. You'll find a discussion of stimulants for depression. In it you'll see how some very prominent doctors at prestigious institutions prefer stimulants for fast relief of crisis depression. Print and march into your doc's office immediately.
> John
Posted by Racer on October 1, 2000, at 14:08:27
In reply to I've had enough!!!, posted by pullmarine on October 1, 2000, at 4:43:47
Wow! I wanna stop my pills, too. I wanna stop feeling tired all the time, and get rid of the cotton mouth, and lose some of this extra weight! I want to live a normal life.
You know what else? I take my pills, despite it all, because they WORK. Without them, I couldn't keep going. They've given me the strength to get myself through some difficulties that I couldn't have managed without them. I know that I can stop them next year, but until then I continue to pop pills every morning, grateful that they exist.
You know what you can learn from that? If you're hating your pills that much, they're NOT WORKING for you. Is your doctor aware of how you feel? (I know that some doctors are worthless. I have experienced it. If your doctor is one of those, please let us know. Maybe what I learned can help you fight through it. And I really do know how difficult it is to fight a doctor when you feel as though life is just too damn much to deal with anymore. Difficult, but don't tell me it's impossible. I've DONE it. If you tell me it's impossible, it'll be like a slap in my face, and I know you don't want to do that.) Change the drugs, let's see if something else works for you.
Therapy? It helps too. The secret is you have to want it to work. And then you have to find the RIGHT therapist. I interviewed almost a dozen when I was looking for a therapist who could help me. You know what I was looking for? Someone who would push me, but in a caring sort of way. I found her, and she changed my life. I still suffer from episodes of depression. But I've got a lot more insight into my own behavior and reactions. That, believe it or not, is enough of a change to improve my life.
Lastly, do you recognise your anger? Everything you post here reminds us of your pain, but I don't see you mentioning your rage. You sound really angry to me, and maybe if you can look around and find out where the anger is really directed, that might help. (but for heaven's sake, camping on your doctor's porch with a roll of duct tape and a garden hose is NOT therapuetic, no matter how satisfying it might sound!)
Good luck, and I'm pulling for you!
(But I'm curious about your handle. I'll explain mine if you explain yours?)
Posted by Mare on October 1, 2000, at 21:58:02
In reply to Re: I've had enough!!! » pullmarine, posted by Racer on October 1, 2000, at 14:08:27
AMEN!
I understand all of this, I love finding people who understand what it's like to want to sleep through life and make everything just go away. I hate taking my pills because it makes me feel so different, so abnormal. I really don't like shrinks. But I really agree with Racer on mostly everything.
Good luck to everyone and their struggles.> Wow! I wanna stop my pills, too. I wanna stop feeling tired all the time, and get rid of the cotton mouth, and lose some of this extra weight! I want to live a normal life.
>
> You know what else? I take my pills, despite it all, because they WORK. Without them, I couldn't keep going. They've given me the strength to get myself through some difficulties that I couldn't have managed without them. I know that I can stop them next year, but until then I continue to pop pills every morning, grateful that they exist.
>
> You know what you can learn from that? If you're hating your pills that much, they're NOT WORKING for you. Is your doctor aware of how you feel? (I know that some doctors are worthless. I have experienced it. If your doctor is one of those, please let us know. Maybe what I learned can help you fight through it. And I really do know how difficult it is to fight a doctor when you feel as though life is just too damn much to deal with anymore. Difficult, but don't tell me it's impossible. I've DONE it. If you tell me it's impossible, it'll be like a slap in my face, and I know you don't want to do that.) Change the drugs, let's see if something else works for you.
>
> Therapy? It helps too. The secret is you have to want it to work. And then you have to find the RIGHT therapist. I interviewed almost a dozen when I was looking for a therapist who could help me. You know what I was looking for? Someone who would push me, but in a caring sort of way. I found her, and she changed my life. I still suffer from episodes of depression. But I've got a lot more insight into my own behavior and reactions. That, believe it or not, is enough of a change to improve my life.
>
> Lastly, do you recognise your anger? Everything you post here reminds us of your pain, but I don't see you mentioning your rage. You sound really angry to me, and maybe if you can look around and find out where the anger is really directed, that might help. (but for heaven's sake, camping on your doctor's porch with a roll of duct tape and a garden hose is NOT therapuetic, no matter how satisfying it might sound!)
>
> Good luck, and I'm pulling for you!
>
> (But I'm curious about your handle. I'll explain mine if you explain yours?)
Posted by LizG on October 7, 2000, at 15:58:20
In reply to Re: I've had enough!!!, posted by Mare on October 1, 2000, at 21:58:02
You're on the wrong meds, having said that though, I dont rate them anyway
Mine dont work, I feel fed up with each day that rolls by.
Find yourself a cognitive behavioural pyschologist, stuff the drugs they are not the cure to the problem, pyschiatrists know bugger all
Posted by pullmarine on October 12, 2000, at 0:03:11
In reply to Re: I've had enough!!!, posted by LizG on October 7, 2000, at 15:58:20
Well guys and girls,
I've stopped my meds (except for dexadrine). I think my doc will have a fit, but at 140 bucks a session, He deserves one.
I'm glad that I'm losing weight. I'm glad that I'm able to think again. I'm glad that my memory is back. I still think life is a piece of sh*t, but no more no less than before.
I also got myself a cool job in a cool environment, and i'm planning to use the cash to promote my cyrosis. If I'm too much of a coward to jump of a bridge, the least I can do is drink myself to death.
JOhn
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