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Posted by Fred Potter on November 6, 2000, at 13:12:10
Can we restart this discussion? Has anyone first
class experience of it as an antidepressant
or tranquiliser? I'm interested in it but not its price.
However, if it works, I'll put up with that, and
if it makes me feel wonderful I'll just have to try to
live with it
Posted by Buffet on November 6, 2000, at 13:48:09
In reply to GHB, posted by Fred Potter on November 6, 2000, at 13:12:10
> Can we restart this discussion? Has anyone first
> class experience of it as an antidepressant
> or tranquiliser?
I tried to use it as an antidepressant and an antianxiety med. It worked for depression very well but only for about two hours. After the effects fade you are back to square one, and left with a question of whether to redose. As for antianxiety - it relieved some of my anxiety while under the influence, but the problem is I made a jackass of myself more than once from being intoxicated. I liken it to alcohol. It makes you feel a little less tense, and talkative but you still need to watch you do and say. Your judgement is not as impaired as alcohol, but it is still quite impaired so when you use it everyday (or other than receation) people start to notice. I tended to get manic and biligerant especially when redosing throughout the day.>I'm interested in it but not its price.
What do you mean? If your speaking about money, it is very cheap. The lactone that is. But, you must know where to go and how to get it. If you are speaking in terms of consequences, well, I have made my stance quite clear in past posts.
> However, if it works, I'll put up with that, and
> if it makes me feel wonderful I'll just have to try to
> live with it
Just be careful. Don't overdo it, it is VERY easy to do. It is addictive, especially if you are procurring it yourself. The reason is you end up having a lot of it on your hands, and when you find out it makes you temporarily feel wonderful, you'll want to do it again and again. It's also easy to rationalize its abuse because it is extremely nontoxic etc,etc,etc...Buffet
Posted by Fred Potter on November 6, 2000, at 13:55:05
In reply to Re: GHB, posted by Buffet on November 6, 2000, at 13:48:09
Thanks for responding. It's given me something to think about. It's expensive to buy lab grade GHB I mean. It says in the literature that the dopamine surge after the first effect has worn off makes you not want to keep dosing. Not necessarily true obviously
Posted by Buffet on November 6, 2000, at 16:28:46
In reply to Re: GHB, posted by Fred Potter on November 6, 2000, at 13:55:05
> Thanks for responding. It's given me something to think about. It's expensive to buy lab grade GHB I mean. It says in the literature that the dopamine surge after the first effect has worn off makes you not want to keep dosing. Not necessarily true obviously
For me the dopamine surge made me more anxious and irritable, which is easily fought off by taking more GHB. When this second high wears off you are even more anxious and irritable, so you take a larger hit of GHB to counteract it and the process continues until you start getting manic, aggresive, and if your still high the reduction in judgement doesn't help your decision making processes. I caught myself lashing out at coworkers and friends for tiny annoyances, and making mountains out of molehills. The next day I'd have to face the consequences of my actions.
I think the biggest problem with GHB is the tendency to redose. The high itself doesn't last very long which makes it a crappy 1 hit recreation drug (if that makes any sense). The short duration makes it more addictive, IMHO.
As far as lab grade GHB is concerned, one can easily by lab grade NaOH at any chemistry shop. 99.9% pure butyrolactone is somewhat easy to procure over the internet. Most people with a little chemistry background can pull off making it, and getting it to the correct PH is no problem. I soon found ingesting the lactone straight up worked just as well with no additional side effects other than taste. Soon I just had to buy the lactone, and it was as legal as water to have on my person. I brought it everywhere, work, school, etc in a little plastic 1 ounce bottle that would contain about 5-7 hits for the entire day. If you go this route, you will undoubtably end up with an addiction. It is just too easy.
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