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Posted by Grouch on July 8, 2001, at 20:19:35
I would like to try Adrafinil, and my pdoc is willing to prescribe it, but only if we can find out for certain whether or not it is a controlled substance in the U.S. (since it's similar to modafinil). I'm assuming from the number of folks on this board who have used it that it can't possibly be controlled, but my doc needs some "official" proof.
Also, I know that some pharmacies are willing to sell it w/o a prescription, but I'm not entirely comfortable with that and my doctor is even less so.
Any suggestions?
Posted by shelliR on July 8, 2001, at 23:02:29
In reply to Is adrafinil a controlled substance?, posted by Grouch on July 8, 2001, at 20:19:35
> I would like to try Adrafinil, and my pdoc is willing to prescribe it, but only if we can find out for certain whether or not it is a controlled substance in the U.S. (since it's similar to modafinil). I'm assuming from the number of folks on this board who have used it that it can't possibly be controlled, but my doc needs some "official" proof.
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> Also, I know that some pharmacies are willing to sell it w/o a prescription, but I'm not entirely comfortable with that and my doctor is even less so.
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> Any suggestions?My guess is that that drugs not available in the US are not classified in terms of controlled or not, since they are not recognized by the FDA. Here there are specific steps for how controlled a substance is (e.g., one, two or three category), so I don't think they would bother to classify drugs which are not FDA approved for use. Again, just a guess.
Shelli
Posted by JohnL on July 9, 2001, at 20:02:44
In reply to Is adrafinil a controlled substance?, posted by Grouch on July 8, 2001, at 20:19:35
> I would like to try Adrafinil, and my pdoc is willing to prescribe it, but only if we can find out for certain whether or not it is a controlled substance in the U.S. (since it's similar to modafinil). I'm assuming from the number of folks on this board who have used it that it can't possibly be controlled, but my doc needs some "official" proof.
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> Also, I know that some pharmacies are willing to sell it w/o a prescription, but I'm not entirely comfortable with that and my doctor is even less so.
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> Any suggestions?I don't know if it is a controlled substance or not. I do know that I've received many deliveries of it no problem. On the other hand, other substances like Ritalin or Adderall are impossible to get. So if Adrafinil is a controlled substance, it's probably way down low on the list I would assume. Otherwise it would be impossible to get just like the other real controlled substances.
Personally I don't see how it could be a controlled substance because it does not have addictive qualities, tolerance building, or any kind of a high. It sure plays a strong role in conquering my stubborn depression, but it doesn't in any way seem similar to a controlled substance to me. It does not provide any instant gratification, unlike the controlled substances which generally do offer some kind of instant gratification.
Posted by Grouch on July 9, 2001, at 21:14:48
In reply to Re: Is adrafinil a controlled substance? » Grouch, posted by shelliR on July 8, 2001, at 23:02:29
> My guess is that that drugs not available in the US are not classified in terms of controlled or not, since they are not recognized by the FDA. Here there are specific steps for how controlled a substance is (e.g., one, two or three category), so I don't think they would bother to classify drugs which are not FDA approved for use. Again, just a guess.
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> ShelliThanks, Shelli. This occurred to me too after I posted my message. Definitely makes sense, so I'll mention it to my doc.
Posted by Grouch on July 9, 2001, at 21:42:05
In reply to Re: Is adrafinil a controlled substance?, posted by JohnL on July 9, 2001, at 20:02:44
>So if Adrafinil is a controlled substance, it's probably way down low on the list I would assume. Otherwise it would be impossible to get just like the other real controlled substances.Yeah, my thinking exactly.
> Personally I don't see how it could be a controlled substance because it does not have addictive qualities, tolerance building, or any kind of a high.
On the other hand, neither does modafinil, as far as I know, yet it is Schedule IV.
Posted by shelliR on July 9, 2001, at 22:01:20
In reply to Re: Is adrafinil a controlled substance? » shelliR, posted by Grouch on July 9, 2001, at 21:14:48
Grouch,
If your doctor wants to talk to a pharmacist about adrafinil in Switzerland, he can email any questions. Here's a copy of the response to my email
Re: adrafinil
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 02:39:26 +0200
From: "Seefeld-Apotheke" < knapp@limmat.ch >
To: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx
Dear Shelli
thank you very much for your inquiry. Yes a prescription is required. You
can e-mail it. The prices are:Olmifon 300mg 20 10.00 $ 40 15.50 $, shipping extra
(approx. 8$).
With kind regards Hans-UeliOf course you must have a scanner to e-mail the prescription.
They have a website at http://www.limmat.ch/knappI ended up trying concerta instead, though.
Shelli
Posted by kid_A on July 10, 2001, at 11:16:25
In reply to Re: Is adrafinil a controlled substance? » Grouch, posted by shelliR on July 9, 2001, at 22:01:20
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/
Posted by Grouch on July 10, 2001, at 22:01:15
In reply to Re: Is adrafinil a controll... classification link, posted by kid_A on July 10, 2001, at 11:16:25
> http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/
Excellent! Thanks.
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