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Posted by Fallen Angel on October 9, 2003, at 20:21:15
Hello,I have these sick thoughts in my head wich are fully unappropiate!! If I see some people doesn't matter who it is,It can be a family member or a complete stranger I have these sick thoughts of them having sex or just doing sick things. Or even with little kids I have these thoughts! Its not that am some kind of pervert cause am a 20year old girl!!These are just thoughts that pop up in my head and I can't do annything about it!! I don't wanna think about it,they just come in my head when I close my eyes! Why do I have this?? Am I sick??
Its driving my crazy!! please if anyone knows something about this,please help me!!
Thank you
Posted by Searchlight on October 9, 2003, at 20:56:23
In reply to Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Fallen Angel on October 9, 2003, at 20:21:15
Fallen Angel, I can see you are having a lot of trouble and pain. It is very appropriate for you to reach out for help. Is there a United Way in your town or Red Cross? If you contact them, I am sure there is someone there who can guide you to a good counselor and/or doctor who can be of tremendous help to you. I urge you to do this as soon as possible, it is clear you are in need.
All the best and please come back for support anytime. This particular board is for meds, and there are several other Psych-Babble boards. I highly recommend Psych-Social-Babble to help you through this, the people are very genuine and very kind and helpful. Please don't feel alone in your quest for help.
Searchlight
Posted by cubbybear on October 10, 2003, at 7:33:44
In reply to Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Fallen Angel on October 9, 2003, at 20:21:15
Fallen Angel, you're probably very much like millions of other people walking around who would never admit to having "perverted" sexual fantasies. So be proud of yourself and be glad that you came here. Now, I can't get into your mind, but I'd guess that if these thoughts have persisted for quite a while, and you're having a rough time with it, you might have an obsessive disorder. There *are* definitely medications out there that counteract obsessive thinking. (Other posters would know the names of these meds). So you can try attacking the problem that way.
If you have a psychological problem for which counselling would be helpful, just be careful of one thing: the U.S. (and possibly other Western nations) have "mandatory reporting" laws that compel health care workers to report people who fall into the category of real or potential sex offenders. If you've done nothing illegal, you have nothing to worry about, but be very careful about what you tell them. Make it clear that you never did this or that, have no intentions of doing it, and don't mention the names of anyone with whom you fantasized having sex, since your own shrink could potentially turn against you in a worst-case scenario. I don't mean to scare you but I just thought I'd mention it
It's a miserable situation in the mental health profession, ever since the government removed the wall of once-guaranteed confidentiality between patient and therapist.
I'll never forget the time I mentioned to a social worker that I enjoyed the affection I was getting from a particular boy, and the guy interrupted me like a bolt out of the blue and warned me that if I were to go any further in the discussion and reveal anything about sexual contact, he'd have to report it. I was angry and shocked speechless. I wasn't doing a d**n thing with this boy that was illegal, but the incident caused me to deeply resent these horrible reporting laws. They only hurt the very people who need help regarding sexual preoccupations that the rest of society considers "perverted." So just be aware of it, in case you don't already know. I hope that a lot of other people will post under your message to guide you through this very difficult terrain.
Posted by Fallen Angel on October 10, 2003, at 9:14:37
In reply to Re: Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by cubbybear on October 10, 2003, at 7:33:44
Dear cubbybear they are not sexual fantasies!!
I don't fantasize!! Its like when am talking to someone,I just get a vision!! I don't think about it,It just comes!!Its really disturbing!
Posted by TerryS on October 10, 2003, at 9:33:18
In reply to Re: Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Fallen Angel on October 10, 2003, at 9:14:37
I understand your problem. This is not uncommon but most people would not admit that they have these visions. You need to evaluate the extent they are disrupting your life. Does this prevent you from being a functional person? Do you avoid situations because of these visions? (Some people have visions of car accidents and this causes them to not drive.) In this case, you should talk to your doctor. Have him recommend a psy doc. Medications like prozac (SSRIs) have helped my husband.
If it does not affect your ability to function then I suggest either accepting the visions -realizing that you have impulse control and have no intention of acting on them. Once you accept these things you would be surprised at how they loose their power over you. Add exercise and vitamins to your lifestyle and you will be surprised.
Good luck
Posted by KimberlyDi on October 10, 2003, at 15:38:52
In reply to Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Fallen Angel on October 9, 2003, at 20:21:15
Just a suggestion: try not to focus on the fact that the thoughts are sexually perverted. That might add an element of shame. There was nothing wrong with you sharing that though beware of the occassional "poster" that has problems of his/her own. You keep having unwanted/disturbing visions that you need help getting rid of.
I used to be awake all night being obsessed over work problems that needed to be solved. the mind's out of control and you need some help to deal with it. Therapy and and an anti-depressant helped me out tremendously. Good Luck.
KDi in Texas
Posted by scatterbrained on October 10, 2003, at 21:58:50
In reply to Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Fallen Angel on October 9, 2003, at 20:21:15
I wouldn't worry about this. Is this recent or something that has persisted for a while? In any case it seems to me that this is some sort of manifestation of OCD. OCD is characterized as "Thoughts that are intrusive". Or it could be some form of Post Truamatic Stress which also seems to have that manifestation of Intrusive thoughts. Although, with PTSD it's usually related to a previous traumatic event. In OCD it's more likely to just be random thoughts that just sort of pop out of you subconcious. Anyway, there are lots of drugs, especially the ssri's that can help with intrusive thoughts. My instinct is that psychotherapy would be your best bet and I wouldn't worry about being misconstruied as a "Sex Offender". Thoughts can't hurt, only actions.
Posted by cubbybear on October 11, 2003, at 2:45:34
In reply to Re: Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Fallen Angel on October 10, 2003, at 9:14:37
> Dear cubbybear they are not sexual fantasies!!
> I don't fantasize!! Its like when am talking to someone,I just get a vision!! I don't think about it,It just comes!!Its really disturbing!I'm sorry if I misconstrued it, but your post mentioned something about sexual thoughts. . .so that's what I assumed. I won't say any more then. . .
Posted by Camille Dumont on October 11, 2003, at 12:51:20
In reply to Re: Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! » Fallen Angel, posted by cubbybear on October 11, 2003, at 2:45:34
I've had similar visions ... totally socially inappropriate except they were of violence instead of sexual acts ... doc told they were a common effect of anxiety problems ... most of it went away when I started taking effexor for my depression.
The way I see it, my brain was picturing the most horrible acts possible because it was just constanly worried about anything and everything.
I understand how troubled you can be ... they are prutty frightening. I felt like a freak when for no reason I had the urge to pick the pigeon who was in front of me and felt like crushing it and bittin his head of ... or stuff like impulses of breaking my own bones ... sort of like a morbid curiosity crap ... wondering what the sound would be like when the bones broke ... .or grabbing people and smashing their heads into walls ... again wondering about noise and what their reactions would be.
I felt like there was somebody else in my head .... giving me theses thoughs ... that they didn't really come from me.
They can be intrusive but I've never acted upon them ... it helped a bit if I tried shifting my focus on something else or start runnig or go exercise ... it seemed to help get rid of the tension.
You should definately talk about it with your doctor ... there are ways to get rid of those. I'm prutty sure if you explain that those are disturbing to you ... not fantasies then he will understand and not see you as a sex-deranged person.
Posted by Camille Dumont on October 13, 2003, at 13:45:36
In reply to Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Fallen Angel on October 9, 2003, at 20:21:15
> Hello,I have these sick thoughts in my head wich are fully unappropiate!! If I see some people doesn't matter who it is,It can be a family member or a complete stranger I have these sick thoughts of them having sex or just doing sick things. Or even with little kids I have these thoughts! Its not that am some kind of pervert cause am a 20year old girl!!These are just thoughts that pop up in my head and I can't do annything about it!! I don't wanna think about it,they just come in my head when I close my eyes! Why do I have this?? Am I sick??
> Its driving my crazy!! please if anyone knows something about this,please help me!!
> Thank you
>
I found this pamphlet on this site ... so of the stuff you describe is there ...http://counseling.uchicago.edu/vpc/
I hope it helps
Posted by sarita0001 on October 13, 2003, at 16:19:58
In reply to Re: Please help me with this!!!! Its important!! , posted by Camille Dumont on October 13, 2003, at 13:45:36
Hi,
I think it would help for you to go to counseling because talking things out can be helpful. I used to get really crazy thoughts like throwing people off balconies, strangling people, shooting them, but for me most of it was built up anxiety. And like you, I NEVER was close to doing those things nor did I want to. It is more common than you think. Any questions I am here.
Sara
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