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Posted by Lamdage22 on December 16, 2021, at 14:49:13
From what I have gathered it is only illegal if it is done in an overt way and over a period of time. Like repeatedly things like "You piece of sh*t, you will never achieve anything". The backhanded, covert way seems to not bother any lawmakers. I am experiencing this. Needs to change.
Posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 8:08:04
In reply to Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 16, 2021, at 14:49:13
> From what I have gathered it is only illegal if it is done in an overt way and over a period of time. Like repeatedly things like "You piece of sh*t, you will never achieve anything". The backhanded, covert way seems to not bother any lawmakers. I am experiencing this. Needs to change.
>Who's abusing you? Maybe you can get them out of your life?
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 9:23:42
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 8:08:04
My parents. It is hard to get them out. Stockolm syndrome. Something like that.
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 9:37:37
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 9:23:42
it seems like narcissistic abuse
Posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 10:05:55
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 9:37:37
> it seems like narcissistic abuse
Why, do your parents seem narcissistic?
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 10:10:44
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 10:05:55
To me they do. My psychologist isnt unreceptive to the idea. And what I read about narcissism in books and online rings a bell.
Posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 10:36:01
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 10:10:44
> To me they do. My psychologist isnt unreceptive to the idea. And what I read about narcissism in books and online rings a bell.
>I've read a lot about narcissism, but have forgotten most of it. I have, or had, some complex of schizoid and narcissistic personality disorders myself. Overtly, the schizoid part dominates, and tones down/hides the narcissism. My fantasy life, however, is more narcissistic than schizoid; eg. unlimited power and wealth, ideal love, boundless success, perfectionistic ambitions of all sorts.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 11:01:43
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 10:36:01
Sounfs like you need to talk to a skilled therapist. There are no meds for this stuff.
Posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 11:47:19
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 11:01:43
> Sounfs like you need to talk to a skilled therapist. There are no meds for this stuff.
>I had a breakthrough from free association on my own. I was writing an essay about truth and delusion, and at some point, it seemed that I hit some delusions in my unconscious, and I felt the relief of my lifetime. Suddenly, I felt I was free to be merely human, not having to live up to (hidden) ideals of grandeur (narcissistic) and self-sufficiency (schizoid).
I don't know if I'm "cured", but I'm not aware of any diagnostic test to determine that. I agree that a skilled therapist might be helpful, but it's not like they grow on trees.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 11:54:14
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 11:47:19
It sounds like an epiphany(ish) experience. You fid that on your own? Impressive. If all else fails you could try to work that way some more. And for what its worth, I like a narcissistic person that is aware much more than someone who is narcissistic and thinks hes perfectly fine.
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 11:57:56
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 11:54:14
working on it, even better
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 12:17:31
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 11:01:43
I wonder why no one chimes in. Abuse is not an infrequent cause of mental distress/illness. Have they repressed and dont want to face their own abuse?
Posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 12:46:51
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 11:54:14
> It sounds like an epiphany(ish) experience. You fid that on your own?
Yes.
I wasn't expecting anything. That's probably one reason why it happened. If I had had some motive, other than writing, it would probably have affected the associations and led me in a less fruitful direction.
> Impressive. If all else fails you could try to work that way some more.
If I had the inspiration, or lack of apathy, I would write a lot more.
> And for what its worth, I like a narcissistic person that is aware much more than someone who is narcissistic and thinks hes perfectly fine.
>It may not be obvious to the observer, but the pathological narcissist is lacking in genuine self-esteem, and therefore needs to continuously collect positive feedback ("narcissistic supply") from outside of himself to reassure himself that he's good and worthy.
I myself used to feel shame when reality contradicted the unconscious delusional ideals, and I was not aware of what was happening. I guess a lot of pathological narcissists will automatically go into a fit of rage rather than allow themselves time to feel the shame, and they are likely not conscious of it at all.
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 12:52:11
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by undopaminergic on December 17, 2021, at 12:46:51
I may have a hint of those fantasies, too. It wouldnt surprise if I am truly the child of narcissistic parents. I want to be exeptionally good at stuff.
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 12:54:58
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 12:52:11
My brother is the same. We were raised to be like that. He actually succeeds in being exceptionally good. It is a dangerous path though.
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 13:06:16
In reply to Re: Is emotional abuse legal?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2021, at 12:54:58
"You don't deserve love unless you are exceptionally good". That type of childrearing.
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