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Posted by Ed O`Flaherty on February 27, 2004, at 17:11:17
I would like to hear from anybody who has attended the Pfeiffer Center in Chicago.They deal with a lot of psychiatric problems there using nutrition as an adjunct to medication.See their details on www.hriptc.org
Posted by Margit on February 27, 2004, at 23:00:00
In reply to Pfeiffer, posted by Ed O`Flaherty on February 27, 2004, at 17:11:17
I'll be going to see them this Monday for the initial evaluation. I did a lot of research on them, including all of the posts here on Babble. To me it just makes a lot of sense that a body can't function properly if it doesn't have the right balance of essential nutrients.
I seem to fall into different "Pfeiffer" catagories when comparing the symptom profiles. So, I am curious to see what they will find.
I suffer from PD and depression with mild OCD.
The nurse, I spoke to on the phone, told me that they will do an extensive evaluation on Monday which includes family history, previous illnesses, all kinds of other questions that will give them clues, a physical exam, blood work, urine test, and hair analysis.
According to this (without the test results), they will start you on a preliminary regimen. Once they get the test results (ca. 4-6 weeks from original appointment) they will finetune your treatment.
I'll keep you posted on my experience, if you'd like.
Posted by joebob on February 28, 2004, at 10:52:23
In reply to Re: Pfeiffer, posted by Margit on February 27, 2004, at 23:00:00
Posted by Simus on February 29, 2004, at 22:11:26
In reply to Pfeiffer, posted by Ed O`Flaherty on February 27, 2004, at 17:11:17
I was surprised to see this post, considering I just sent my initial patient form in Friday. I am also very interested in feedback from people who have gone there.
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 1, 2004, at 18:38:27
In reply to Pfeiffer, posted by Ed O`Flaherty on February 27, 2004, at 17:11:17
okay, call me shallow but I am intregued by the name. It's part of the same family as Flatley....in Gaelic would be
"O Flaithfhileadh" which means "decendant of the prince poet". I love the name and was interested in your take on this.
Posted by TeeJay on March 1, 2004, at 22:00:30
In reply to O`Flaherty, posted by Jai Narayan on March 1, 2004, at 18:38:27
Noooo, he suffers with "gas", just isnt so good with spelling ;-))))
Teejay (only kiddin)
Posted by Jai Narayan on March 2, 2004, at 18:12:31
In reply to Re: O`Flaherty » Jai Narayan, posted by TeeJay on March 1, 2004, at 22:00:30
> Noooo, he suffers with "gas", just isnt so good with spelling ;-))))
>
> Teejay (only kiddin)
*I had a chuckle from that....I love this site and all the fun to be had.
Posted by McPac on March 5, 2004, at 20:06:10
In reply to Re: O`Flaherty, posted by Jai Narayan on March 2, 2004, at 18:12:31
Pfeiffer was a complete waste of time, money and effort for me. Pfeiffer sucks.
Hope it's more worthwhile to whomever else here goes.
Posted by Simus on March 5, 2004, at 22:43:11
In reply to Re: O`Flaherty, posted by McPac on March 5, 2004, at 20:06:10
> Pfeiffer was a complete waste of time, money and effort for me. Pfeiffer sucks.
> Hope it's more worthwhile to whomever else here goes.Please tell why. I have an appointment in April, and $1000 on the line.
Posted by Margit on March 5, 2004, at 23:52:03
In reply to Pfeiffer, posted by Ed O`Flaherty on February 27, 2004, at 17:11:17
Had my appointment on Monday. They collected all the samples (hair, urine, blood), had a complete physical done plus an intensive interview with one of their nurses.
As I said before, I seem to be all over the place concerning their categories. However, they gave my what they call a "Primer" to start with until the results come in. It contains Vitamin C, E, large amount of Manganese and Copper.
I took this supplement twice along with some of my other supplements (Pfeiffer said it was ok to continue them) and got an extreme reaction. I got real shaky, a bad headache (usually I never get headaches), anxious, and my jaw felt ridgid - I felt like jumping out of my skin.
My gut tells me that it is probably the extra amount of Manganese (8.5mg in addition to my 4mg from Multi). I had a hair analysis done a few years ago and my manganese levels were high. Maybe we're on to something.
McPac:
I have followed most of your previous posts concerning Pfeiffer and if I remember correctly, you were undermethylated plus Pyrolle disorder.So you didn't have any success at all with their supplementation? Did they ever get your histamine levels down? What excactly was the regimen they put you on?
Sorry for all the questions, but I am a little worried now.
Thanks for your response.
Posted by Civ on March 13, 2004, at 8:57:10
In reply to Re: Pfeiffer, posted by Margit on March 5, 2004, at 23:52:03
Sorry for the late reply to this post. I have a question about the blood tests they order. Can't you save money and have them done for free if you get a slip from your own physician? Assuming you have a cooperative physician (or just nag him or her until he relents), I think you could save a lot of money.
Posted by Margit on March 15, 2004, at 19:59:51
In reply to Re: Pfeiffer, posted by Civ on March 13, 2004, at 8:57:10
> Sorry for the late reply to this post. I have a question about the blood tests they order. Can't you save money and have them done for free if you get a slip from your own physician? Assuming you have a cooperative physician (or just nag him or her until he relents), I think you could save a lot of money.
The following is part of the email Pfeiffer had sent me. It is a detailed list of their charges. Maybe you could check with your MD and compare to see which is cheaper. I don't see why you couldn't have some of the lab tests done by your doctor, but you'd have to check with Pfeiffer to see if that would be acceptable.
Charges:
The following are general approximations of charges for an initial and a follow-up visit. Actual charges are based on the services provided and the laboratory testing ordered determined by medical necessity at the time of service.Initial Visit:
99205 Office Visit w/ High medical Decision Making $310.00
and 99354 Prolonged Professional Service, face-to-face $225.00
or 99358 Prolonged Professional Service, non face-to-face $225.00
Initial Labs:
80053 Comp. Metabolic $28.00
82525 Copper $50.00
82390 Ceruloplasmin $42.00
84630 Zinc $48.00
84120 Kryptopyrrole $74.50
85025 CBC w/ auto diff $31.00
83088 Histamine $56.00Hair Elements:
82108 Aluminum $10.00
83018 Heavy Metal $10.00
83655 Lead $10.00
83825 Mercury $10.00
83885 Nickel $10.0084439 T4 $29.00
84443 TSH $32.00
82728 Ferritin $29.00
83090 Homocysteine $60.00*
* for patients 30 or olderAdditional testing may be necessary depending on findings at the initial visit.
In-House Follow-up Visit:
99215 Comprehensive office visit $215.00
and 99354 Prolonged Professional Service, face-to-face $225.00
or 99358 Prolonged Professional Service, non face-to-face $225.00In-House Follow-up Labs:
80053 Comp. Metabolic $28.00
82525 Copper $50.00
82390 Ceruloplasmin $42.00
84630 Zinc $48.00
84120 Kryptopyrrole $56.00
85025 CBC w/ auto diff $31.00
83088 Histamine $56.00Hair Elements:
82108 Aluminum $10.00
83018 Heavy Metal $10.00
83655 Lead $10.00
83825 Mercury $10.00
83885 Nickel $10.00Additional testing may be necessary based on previous or current findings.
4575 Weaver Parkway, Warrenville, IL 60555 · 630-505-0300 · Fax 630-836-0667 email: info@hriptc.org www.hriptc.org
Posted by Ed O`Flaherty on September 18, 2004, at 12:47:31
In reply to Re: Pfeiffer, posted by Margit on March 5, 2004, at 23:52:03
Thank you all for the information on Pfeiffer.Has anybody else been there and if so what has been the outcome,and the cost of same.Was it worthwhile from your point of view?
Posted by Ed O`Flaherty on March 29, 2005, at 16:33:21
In reply to Re: Pfeiffer - to Civ, posted by Margit on March 15, 2004, at 19:59:51
I would like to hear from anybody who has been to Pfeiffer since the last entry in this thread.As a physician in Ireland I have found the information I have acquired from them to be of great benefit to the majority of my psychiatric patients.It has been a source of great professional and personal satisfaction to me to see many people who were generally regarded as quite hopeless cases doing well and often getting back to work.
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