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Posted by jujube on September 28, 2004, at 15:36:06
I have received a few views on my question already, and greatly appreciated the thoughtful responses I received. I am not advice shopping, but I would like to have one more before I completely discard an option that could help me.
I am currently on Celexa (just increased to 30 mg), which I started taking almost 3 weeks ago. It's too hard to tell if it is working, but I remain hopeful. (Previously on Effexor XR which left me numb, unfeeling and apathetic.)
I was thinking of supplementing with Rhodolia. I had asked my doctor about this, and he didn't have a problem with it (then again, he admitted he didn't know what Rhodolia was or did).
The only concern I have about it is that it works to balance MAO. It is not an MAO inhibitor. Nevertheless, I was a little concerned when I read that it had an effect on MAO since I had been told that SSRIs should not be mixed MAO inhibitors. I did, however, see in old threads that one or two people combined Rhodolia with a SSRI.
What do you think? Should I stay away from it?
Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.
Tamara
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 12:29:34
In reply to ? for Larry (if you have time don't mind please), posted by jujube on September 28, 2004, at 15:36:06
> I have received a few views on my question already, and greatly appreciated the thoughtful responses I received. I am not advice shopping, but I would like to have one more before I completely discard an option that could help me.
>
> I am currently on Celexa (just increased to 30 mg), which I started taking almost 3 weeks ago. It's too hard to tell if it is working, but I remain hopeful. (Previously on Effexor XR which left me numb, unfeeling and apathetic.)
>
> I was thinking of supplementing with Rhodolia. I had asked my doctor about this, and he didn't have a problem with it (then again, he admitted he didn't know what Rhodolia was or did).
>
> The only concern I have about it is that it works to balance MAO. It is not an MAO inhibitor. Nevertheless, I was a little concerned when I read that it had an effect on MAO since I had been told that SSRIs should not be mixed MAO inhibitors. I did, however, see in old threads that one or two people combined Rhodolia with a SSRI.
>
> What do you think? Should I stay away from it?
>
> Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.
>
> TamaraI hope my reply does not come late.
I don't have any concerns about the combination, overtly. However, you never know how you're going to react. It's wise to be under the supervision of someone objective, some caregiver, when you try combining things.
The general rule of thumb for me is: start low, and go slow.
That's start the new potentially interacting substance at a low dose, and monitor for effects. If that seems okay, slowly increase the dose.
Lar
Posted by jujube on October 30, 2004, at 12:39:29
In reply to Re: ? for Larry (if you have time don't mind please) » jujube, posted by Larry Hoover on October 30, 2004, at 12:29:34
> > I have received a few views on my question already, and greatly appreciated the thoughtful responses I received. I am not advice shopping, but I would like to have one more before I completely discard an option that could help me.
> >
> > I am currently on Celexa (just increased to 30 mg), which I started taking almost 3 weeks ago. It's too hard to tell if it is working, but I remain hopeful. (Previously on Effexor XR which left me numb, unfeeling and apathetic.)
> >
> > I was thinking of supplementing with Rhodolia. I had asked my doctor about this, and he didn't have a problem with it (then again, he admitted he didn't know what Rhodolia was or did).
> >
> > The only concern I have about it is that it works to balance MAO. It is not an MAO inhibitor. Nevertheless, I was a little concerned when I read that it had an effect on MAO since I had been told that SSRIs should not be mixed MAO inhibitors. I did, however, see in old threads that one or two people combined Rhodolia with a SSRI.
> >
> > What do you think? Should I stay away from it?
> >
> > Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.
> >
> > Tamara
>
> I hope my reply does not come late.
>
> I don't have any concerns about the combination, overtly. However, you never know how you're going to react. It's wise to be under the supervision of someone objective, some caregiver, when you try combining things.
>
> The general rule of thumb for me is: start low, and go slow.
>
> That's start the new potentially interacting substance at a low dose, and monitor for effects. If that seems okay, slowly increase the dose.
>
> Lar
>
>
Thanks Larry. I have an appointment with the pdoc on Tuesday, and I will bring to the appointment literature I received which describes Rosavin and how it works. I haven't been having much luck with ADs (have been on four in the past year with minimal relief), so I was hoping to augment naturally. I had tried L-Tyrosine, but I think I started too high (500 mg, three times a day) with L-Glutamine (500 mg, twice a day) and became really agitated and jittery. May try again since it did help initially with energy and motivation, but at a much lower dose to begin with.Thanks again. Have a great day and a wonderful weekend!
Tamara
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 4, 2004, at 10:06:00
In reply to Re: ? for Larry (if you have time don't mind please) » Larry Hoover, posted by jujube on October 30, 2004, at 12:39:29
> Thanks Larry. I have an appointment with the pdoc on Tuesday, and I will bring to the appointment literature I received which describes Rosavin and how it works. I haven't been having much luck with ADs (have been on four in the past year with minimal relief), so I was hoping to augment naturally. I had tried L-Tyrosine, but I think I started too high (500 mg, three times a day) with L-Glutamine (500 mg, twice a day) and became really agitated and jittery. May try again since it did help initially with energy and motivation, but at a much lower dose to begin with.
>
> Thanks again. Have a great day and a wonderful weekend!
>
> TamaraYou're welcome, as always.
Yes, starting at a lower dose on the tyrosine would be a good idea, if you try it again. Also, combining it with glutamine obscures the observations available to you, as you've changed two variable simultaneously. Some people do better on phenylalanine (DLPA) than tyrosine. It's just another thing to try, if tyrosine isn't right for you.
Lar
Posted by jujube on November 6, 2004, at 15:25:48
In reply to Re: ? for Larry (if you have time don't mind please) » jujube, posted by Larry Hoover on November 4, 2004, at 10:06:00
> > Thanks Larry. I have an appointment with the pdoc on Tuesday, and I will bring to the appointment literature I received which describes Rosavin and how it works. I haven't been having much luck with ADs (have been on four in the past year with minimal relief), so I was hoping to augment naturally. I had tried L-Tyrosine, but I think I started too high (500 mg, three times a day) with L-Glutamine (500 mg, twice a day) and became really agitated and jittery. May try again since it did help initially with energy and motivation, but at a much lower dose to begin with.
> >
> > Thanks again. Have a great day and a wonderful weekend!
> >
> > Tamara
>
> You're welcome, as always.
>
> Yes, starting at a lower dose on the tyrosine would be a good idea, if you try it again. Also, combining it with glutamine obscures the observations available to you, as you've changed two variable simultaneously. Some people do better on phenylalanine (DLPA) than tyrosine. It's just another thing to try, if tyrosine isn't right for you.
>
> Lar
>Thanks Larry. I am going to hold off on the L-Tyrosine for a little while to see how I do on the other supps I am taking. I think I have finally found a good vitamin/mineral regime, so I'll see where that takes me. Although I don't have as much energy as I used to (pre-iron deficiency and pre-Depo Provera), it is improving now that the Depo Provera shot is wearing off.
Another question. What do you think of wheatgrass? Postives? Negatives? Cautions? I'm thinking of substituting the green foods supplement with just wheatgrass.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Tamara
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