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Posted by platinumbride on August 29, 2005, at 17:01:19
In reply to Re: Does this make Sense?, posted by linkadge on August 27, 2005, at 9:46:26
This will probably be redirectd, but do you think that this whole fish oil thing and "protecting the brain" holds any water? (no pun intended) Can taking that nasty stuff protect one from the crap we deal with on SSRIs? or other ADs? Can it give one REAL sleep as it "protects"?
Diane
> There is evidence that SSRIs can definately impact sleep archetecture negatively.
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> I rememeber on celexa, I would just about phase out and then boom I would wake up again, (this pattern would repeat itself for hours and hours)
> On the days that I slept the worst, the AD effect would be the best. If I slept sound, the day would be very bla, and blue.
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> Deep restorative sleep may be depressing, but it is healthy for the brain. I am under the belief that the apathy, and the zombie like states I was experiencing were a result of lack of restorative sleep.
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> I also belive that there are psychological effects of a lack of orgasm. I read somewhere that after an orgasm certain powerful chemcials are relased that help you concentrate. When I go for weeks without one, who knows the concequenses !??
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> A lot of the drug layering (stimulants, sedatives, anticonvulsants, etc) seemed to be in responce to problems that came up from sleep deprivation.
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> I know that sleeping better coming off them has been benifical. I am very blue the next day, but certain things have definately improved, like the ability to read things and ability to focus on whats infront of me. I am not apathetic, just very blue.
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Posted by linkadge on August 30, 2005, at 12:33:57
In reply to Re: Does this make Sense? » linkadge, posted by platinumbride on August 29, 2005, at 11:20:36
I believe that many alternative treatments can improve the course of depressive illness.
For some people, they may not be able to fully cure the illness, but they can definately reduce the effective amount of medication, which will cut side effects and improve quality of life.
In the end, it comes down to the functionality of individual brain cells. Certain vitamins, and omega 3's work to nourish the neurons, and imrprove functionality, not to mention that many nutrients are involved in the formation and production of growth factors, that help to reconnect dammaged limbic structures.
It is very concievable that optimum nutrition can and will protect againts a variety of neurological insults.
With omega 3, it is all about finding the magic dose. Too much generally dose cause problems (But DONT let that turn you off to Omega 3) it is such a precious substance. Your brain loves this stuff.
Start low with it, and go slow. Most studies find the best benifits with under 1 gram of EPA and DHA.
Never close the door to omega 3. Even if it just means takeing one capsule a day.
Linkadge
Posted by alohashirt on August 31, 2005, at 21:27:46
In reply to Re: Does this make Sense?, posted by linkadge on August 30, 2005, at 12:33:57
I took a long list of alternative remedies and nootropics to my psychiatrist and asked his opinion about their use with ADHD. He suggested fish oil as teh the one most likely to help. I found that the fish burps were just so nasty that I didn't want to swallow the tablets.
I have found an alternative way of taking the fish oil that avoids the burps. It is called Coromega and it is a custard like orange goop made from fish oil, egg yolk, orange flavor and menthol. It isn't pleasant but it is better than capsules. I typically take with baby sized yoghurt containers. Cheapest price I found was $30 for a pack of 90 sachets.
(Other remedies I didn't try:
Deprenyl
pramracetam
galantamine
l-tyrosine
GABA
vitamin B12
dish oil
adrafinil
DHEA
SAME
aricept
NeuroReplete
taurine
Posted by Jedi on September 6, 2005, at 0:44:43
In reply to Re: Does this make Sense? » linkadge, posted by platinumbride on August 29, 2005, at 11:20:36
> ... Can taking that nasty stuff protect one from the crap we deal with on SSRIs? or other ADs? Can it give one REAL sleep as it "protects"?
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> DianeThe Costco store brand Kirkland has a coated fish oil capsule that releases in the the lower intestine. I have noticed very little fishy aftertaste with this product. Each capsule contains 240mg EPA and 200mg DHA. It seems to be a quality product and the price sure beats any health food store.
Jedi
Posted by gromit on September 6, 2005, at 21:36:33
In reply to Re: Does this make Sense?, posted by Jedi on September 6, 2005, at 0:44:43
> > ... Can taking that nasty stuff protect one from the crap we deal with on SSRIs? or other ADs? Can it give one REAL sleep as it "protects"?
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> The Costco store brand Kirkland has a coated fish oil capsule that releases in the the lower intestine. I have noticed very little fishy aftertaste with this product. Each capsule contains 240mg EPA and 200mg DHA. It seems to be a quality product and the price sure beats any health food store.I'll second that, I've been taking costco brand for years with no fishy burps. I absolutely hate fish, couldn't keep down a spoonful of fish oil to save my life.
Rick
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