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Posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 24, 2006, at 19:01:50
In reply to Re: Natural or medicinal 5ht2 antagonist? » linkadge, posted by blueberry on April 22, 2006, at 13:54:01
Hi Blueberry!
Have you ever tried SJW on its own?? Or have you never had the opportunity to do so? Did you take kira? Do you notice any difference between the brands? I tried looking into sjw at that Kelly's sjwinfo.org site, but the discussion forum I think difficult to follow and nowhere near as helpful as here!!
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by blueberry on April 24, 2006, at 19:01:53
In reply to Re: Natural or medicinal 5ht2 antagonist? » blueberry, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 22, 2006, at 14:30:52
Hi! Actually I did try sjw on its own many years ago. I'll never forget how I was driving along a country road one day, about two weeks after starting sjw, and all of a sudden I realized I was having fun, noticing colors, seeing the trees and the mountains, and actually appreciating everything around me. You know, stuff that normal people take for granted. I wanted to turn the radio on and listen to something. Wow. That was unbelievable. Then my doc pulled me off of it. Stupid of the doc, and stupid of me to go along with it.
My one and only problem with sjw...it makes my ears ring real loud. Would that go away in say 2 months, 3 months? I don't know. But's its pretty bad. I almost took sjw today. I'm on the fence. Can't seem to commit.
Yeah, the sjw board is interesting, but not nearly as educated as this one.
> Hi Blueberry!
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> Have you ever tried SJW on its own?? Or have you never had the opportunity to do so? Did you take kira? Do you notice any difference between the brands? I tried looking into sjw at that Kelly's sjwinfo.org site, but the discussion forum I think difficult to follow and nowhere near as helpful as here!!
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> Kind regards
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> Meri
Posted by linkadge on April 24, 2006, at 19:01:53
In reply to Re: Natural or medicinal 5ht2 antagonist? » Meri-Tuuli, posted by blueberry on April 22, 2006, at 20:08:50
The fact that they're making synthetic SJW just tells you that there must be something to it.
I have heard stories of people who have failed ECT yet responded to SJW so go figure.
Linkadge
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 24, 2006, at 19:03:29
In reply to Re: Natural or medicinal 5ht2 antagonist? » Meri-Tuuli, posted by blueberry on April 22, 2006, at 20:08:50
Hi!
>Then my doc pulled me off of it. Stupid of the doc, and stupid of me to go along with it.
I'm in bit of the same situation - I stopped it a few weeks ago because I didn't think it was doing anything (big mistake) but anyway I'm seeing a pdoc on Friday and I don't want to start it up again. I think I might try whatever medication the pdoc suggests, simply because I want to stay with him.
Its hard to get a referral to a pdoc on the NHS. So you see my dilemma -- I don't want to go to him 'I'm on SJW, its okay' so he'll just say 'stay on it and don't come back, see your GP'. At least if I'm taking something he prescribes, I will get to see him again (I think).
And because pdocs can prescribe more exotic drugs than GPs can (who are limited to SSRIs TCAs) then i want to give this a shot - at least getting prescribed something that might actually help. SSRIs/effexor/wellbutrin did nothing for me. All I have is some limited hope that this pdoc will be better than the GPs I have seen so far....
But SJW ain't going anywhere so I can always go back to it.
Anyway I'm digressing. Sorry.
You probably already know this, but ginkgo is meant to help the ringing in the ears....and er, I think you can combine it with SJW? I think I read about ginkgo's tinnatus reducing properties on www.herbalgram.org (the American Botanical Assoc website), but the site seems to be down at the moment.
They have an interesting article on SJW and salivary cortisol and melatonin in the recent news. Anyway search the archives for ginkgo, the tinnatus thing might come up - I would have done it for you, but the site is down or so it seems at my end.
Kind regards
Meri
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> My one and only problem with sjw...it makes my ears ring real loud. Would that go away in say 2 months, 3 months? I don't know. But's its pretty bad. I almost took sjw today. I'm on the fence. Can't seem to commit.
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> Yeah, the sjw board is interesting, but not nearly as educated as this one.
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> > Hi Blueberry!
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> > Have you ever tried SJW on its own?? Or have you never had the opportunity to do so? Did you take kira? Do you notice any difference between the brands? I tried looking into sjw at that Kelly's sjwinfo.org site, but the discussion forum I think difficult to follow and nowhere near as helpful as here!!
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> > Kind regards
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> > Meri
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Posted by jparsell82 on April 24, 2006, at 19:03:29
In reply to Natural or medicinal 5ht2 antagonist?, posted by blueberry on April 22, 2006, at 5:53:58
Chromium shows promise in atypical depression.
Biol Psychiatry. 2003 Feb 1;53(3):261-4.
Effectiveness of chromium in atypical depression: a placebo-controlled trial.Davidson JR, Abraham K, Connor KM, McLeod MN.
Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina 27710, USA.
BACKGROUND: Chromium picolinate (CP) has been reported to benefit patients with symptoms of atypical depression. METHODS: A placebo-controlled, double-blind, pilot study of CP was conducted in 15 patients with DSM-IV major depressive disorder, atypical type. Patients received 600 micro g of CP or matching placebo (PBO) for 8 weeks. RESULTS: Seven (70%) CP and zero (0%) PBO patients met responder criteria (p =.02). Other outcomes were consistent with greater effect of CP. Three patients on CP failed to show any improvement. Chromium picolinate was well tolerated. CONCLUSIONS: Chromium picolinate shows promising antidepressant effects in atypical depression. Its mechanism of action may relate to 5HT2A downregulation, increased insulin sensitivity, or to other effects.
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