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Posted by bleauberry on March 6, 2010, at 9:21:32
In reply to Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia), posted by Vincent_QC on March 3, 2010, at 15:46:43
Vincent I just wanted to follow up on a couple things.
Eleuthero. That is the name of Siberian Ginseng. It is claimed to rebalance bodily systems and to strengthen the body against stress. If cortisol is too high, it will lower. If cortisol is too low, it will raise it. It does a bunch of stuff, but very mildly and over a long period of time. Benefits may not be noticeale for 3 to 6 months. It is important to keep taking it every day just as you would with your vitamins or minerals. It is one of the premier plants of the earth. There are literally hundreds of scientific studies on it. The claims of what it does are mostly true.
But again, very very low doses to start with. I am sensitive and had to start with 25mg. My only side effect at that dose was agitation. I skipped a day, took another, skipped a couple days, took another, and after a four weeks was able to 50mg every day with no problem. And it keeps going like that on the climb upward in dose. It was at about a month I started to notice hints of better energy, better mood, more relaxed and comfortable, and such.
I am off the medication topic here for a moment, looking at the alternative methods, because in this case it is strongly warranted. Meds alone are not going to fix you, and in fact as you have already seen can make things a lot worse. When this happens, we have to say, "ok, the rules that everyone else plays by do not apply to me, my game is different than theirs." This situation needs a more comprehensive full package approach versus any single pill.
My doctor let me borrow one of his books on healing cortisol problems with just food. The typical pattern is to feel worse for a few weeks or even a couple months, improvements beginning at about 3 months, better at 6 months, and completely healed at 2 years. The diet basically goes like this: Mostly fresh raw veggies; some very slightly cooked veggies; fruits, but avoid the very sugary ones, all the berries are your best fruits, granny smith apple is the only apple choice, no bananas; avoid starchy veggies such as potatoes and carrots and most root veggies; avoid all forms of sugar...sugar, sucrulose, fructose, corn syrup, etc; avoid all artificial sugars except Stevia, stevia is good and actually has some healing power of its own; very little or no caffeine; lots of water, more than you think; herbal teas are good; heavy on proteins from meats, nuts, seeds; generous amounts of healthy fats such as nuts, avocados, eggs; eat all the butter and cream you want, but cut back on milk; avoid wheat, barley, barley malt, and instead go for brown rice, millet, quinoa, and oatmeal; and take either yogurt or a good refrigerated brand of probiotic supplement everyday.
Avoiding wheat deserves mention of its own. With your gut history, avoiding gluten is probably a very wise thing to do. Gluten is found in wheat, barley, barley malt, and traces in oats. It would be safe to assume you are either gluten intolerant or gluten sensitive.
In a nutshell...heavy on proteins and fats, heavy on veggies and fruits, avoid sugars and caffeine as much as possible, avoid starches and most grains.
In the early weeks, food changes like these can be hard because you miss your old favorite foods that are not on the good list. But after a few months, your taste buds become trained to actually like your new foods better, and you no longer desire or like your old foods anymore.
Adrenal cortex extracts can be helpful. But with your sensitivity you would have to take extremely small doses to start with. Your system can easily be thrown for a loop by any little changes. Even a diet change would cause you to feel weird things happening. If you do get an adrenal extract, be sure it is the adrenal cortex extract and not the whole adrenal extract. This helps to do what the missing cortisol would have done. I mentioned licorice in the last post. Licorice slows down the breakdown of cortisol and so allows what little you have to last longer.
Tyrosine is a building block for the adrenals and thyroid. While most people talk about doses in the 500mg to 2000mg range, for you it would realistically be 25mg. Even that little amount would make a positive difference.
With anything...anything...meds, herbs, food changes...do it with extremely tiny doses and in small steps.
When it comes to meds, you are in a different game than most people, and the rules for you are different. For example, someone else may start with 5mg lexapro and have a target of 20mg, even before they have any clue of what will happen.
In your case, there is no preconceived target. You do not have a target dose, and you do not even have a plan to increase your dose. You wait and see what happens at the lowest dose you can tolerate before making any other moves. Your response guides your journey, not a preconceived blind plan. Your ending dose may very well be your starting dose. And your starting dose may be as low as 1/10th of 1mg, or 1mg, or whatever...some amount that would seem ridiculously low to someone else. Can such a tiny insignificant amount actually work? For someone else, maybe, maybe not. For you, yes. You are sensitive not only to the side effects, but also to the therapeutics. The entire game you are in is vastly different than what your doctors are trained in, so to play their game is an almost guaranteed losing game. Only a few doctors have a keen talent at treating people like you.
Most of this information I got from the year I spent seeing a most excellent medical doctor not far from Canada actually. I learned a lot from him. Almost every single one of his patients was like you and me. He didn't have any ordinary patients. All of his were the ones failed by multiple other doctors. So what I have shared with you in my posts is a collection of realworld wisdom seen in actual practice with very difficult patients and I hope you will find some of it helpful.
No matter what you do, it is going to be slow going. So don't expect fast changes. Keep your eye on 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, as your targets. Don't think in terms of days or weeks. And I think you are going to be fine.
Posted by bleauberry on March 6, 2010, at 9:21:32
In reply to Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia), posted by Vincent_QC on March 3, 2010, at 15:46:43
Sorry, I apologize, one more thing.
You mentioned getting exhausted after just ten minutes of working out. Classic adrenal/thyroid stuff. Listen to what your body is telling you.
Don't do it.
In your case, the best kinds of exercises are non-aerobic. Weightlifting, stretching, these are good. Anything that gets your heart beating hard and breathing hard, not good. You can do those things, but only in moderation.
If the adrenals are weak, the last thing you want to do is strain them. Heavy exercise will strain them to the max. If you get to the point where you feel exhausted, even if it has only been 10 minutes, you've already strained them too much.
So in the same way doses of meds or supplements need to be very low, the demand put on the adrenals needs to also be very low. You can stay in excellent physical shape and keep the muscles toned and all that without overdoing it.
When you begin to heal, you may have a day where you experience unusually good energy, and you may overdo it that day with more activity than you usually do. Your adrenals, not healed yet, will be knocked back down a few notches by the excess activitiy you did on that good day. Then you will be back in the trenches again for a few days to recover from that one single day. So, when that day comes, force yourself to take it easy, go slow, and don't overdo it. The adrenals need to be pampered all the way. Give them a smooth ride so they can heal and strengthen. Any excess demand is going to sabotage all your other efforts.
Alright, I think I'm done. :-) Geez, I sure hope something in all of this is helpful to you. It is already obvious that no one else is going to heal us, so we have to learn how to heal ourselves. Thankfully it has already been done by thousands of others before us, and we have their stories to learn from. Most of which I have shared with you.
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 6, 2010, at 9:22:04
In reply to , posted by on December 31, 1969, at 18:00:00
> Sorry, I apologize, one more thing.
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> You mentioned getting exhausted after just ten minutes of working out. Classic adrenal/thyroid stuff. Listen to what your body is telling you.
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> Don't do it.
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> In your case, the best kinds of exercises are non-aerobic. Weightlifting, stretching, these are good. Anything that gets your heart beating hard and breathing hard, not good. You can do those things, but only in moderation.
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> If the adrenals are weak, the last thing you want to do is strain them. Heavy exercise will strain them to the max. If you get to the point where you feel exhausted, even if it has only been 10 minutes, you've already strained them too much.
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> So in the same way doses of meds or supplements need to be very low, the demand put on the adrenals needs to also be very low. You can stay in excellent physical shape and keep the muscles toned and all that without overdoing it.
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> When you begin to heal, you may have a day where you experience unusually good energy, and you may overdo it that day with more activity than you usually do. Your adrenals, not healed yet, will be knocked back down a few notches by the excess activitiy you did on that good day. Then you will be back in the trenches again for a few days to recover from that one single day. So, when that day comes, force yourself to take it easy, go slow, and don't overdo it. The adrenals need to be pampered all the way. Give them a smooth ride so they can heal and strengthen. Any excess demand is going to sabotage all your other efforts.
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> Alright, I think I'm done. :-) Geez, I sure hope something in all of this is helpful to you. It is already obvious that no one else is going to heal us, so we have to learn how to heal ourselves. Thankfully it has already been done by thousands of others before us, and we have their stories to learn from. Most of which I have shared with you.Hi ;-)
Thanks for your answers... very helpfull, especially when your own PDoc told you that he cannot help you anymore and that it's no hope for me, especially for meds...He talk about going off all meds, including benzos meds, and talk aslo about learn to live my life in the state that I am now... who is ridiculous... I don't know someone who will accept to live a life like this!!! Too bad i'm not suicidal, and fear death... because I will not be here since a long time!!!The main problem is that I can't ask to have another PDoc... you already know, public health system, no money, mean you don't have the choice to take the PDoc they give to you!!! Most of them are pay by the governement, pay more if they see more patients each day... so they never take the time to listening to you and also they don't care about you, they see you as a number, not a human being...
I have another choice, it will be to say to the PDoc that I drop him, the next time I see him, and return only with my Family Doctor, who is not a PDoc, but do a lot of research on anxiety disorders and have more experience of dealing with peoples who have anxiety disorders than peoples who have depression... The Family Doc also take a lot of time with his patients... In fact, when you got an appointment with him, he is always late of 2-3 hours because he take the time to speak with his patients and listening to them!
Also, the Family Doc is more open to off-label meds and if I insist a lot, I can convince him to have some bloodwork done to test my hormones... something that my PDoc will not do...
The PDoc don't want to do anything for me, he can't even remember what meds he try on me. I always have to remind him about my past history of meds trials and things like that. He never take the time to read all my medical folder...and when I want to try something, he always agrue with me, tolding me that i'm a passive-agressive person, that I don't trust him, that i'm a very difficult patient to treat...bla bla bla...
Since I have that PDoc, my mental state decrease so much... The problem that I had when I start seeing him was only social anxiety and agoraphobia. I was stable on a low dose of 20 mg of Valium, even after many fails on pervious meds that I try with the PDoc that I had before... I start experiencing panic and worse anxiety since i'm following by him... I don't put the blame on him, but he don't help me to improve for sure... His attitude is something that I can't tolerate and the fact that he refuse to help me proove that it's not the PDoc I need...
Before I had that PDoc, I had another one who was working only with anxious peoples... it was his speciality... but that PDoc leave the Psychiatric hospital to go working with soldiers in the army, who have PTSD... And the psychiatrict hospital decide to give to me the actual PDoc, who work mainly with depressive peoples, not anxious... I see him since december 2008 and he do nothing to help me. In fact, I was always the one who ask about trying new meds.
I was the one who ask him to start the Parnate (my own fault because since then, my blood pressure and pulse rate is all f*ck up), same thing for the Clomiparmine, the Imipramine, the nortryptiline, the pristiq, the cymbalta and many others meds who fails to work on me in 2009... I'm also the one who suggest to return on the Paxil in July 2009... he wanted me on 10 mg at the first dose... I do it on my own way...and take 2 months before reaching 20 mg...and decrease to 15 mg because I find out that it was doing the same thing at 15mg and 20 mg, so why take more of it when you can take less...
Anyway, last summer my anxiety was mainly panic attacks while I was driving my car and when I was at the gym... I was able to get out of my house and being alone at home without experiencing constant anxiety symptoms like the incredible head pain (migraine), eyes pain, stomach burning, dizziness, fainting, constant sweating from hands and feets, visual hallucinations (black circles), muscles spasm, intense fear of dying, sensitivity to lights and sounds, tunel vision, double vision, and many others...
Now I can't even take a single Advil to treat my head pain and decrease the migraine that I have everyday... The head pain and migraine is always higher when I have to leave the house and when i'm outside or far away from my home... and when the head pain became stronger, the migraine start and i'm stuck with it for 4-5 days in a row...
I have also a lot of difficulty to take my daily vitamins, the iron make my pulse rate irregular, the calcium make the same effect, the Vitamin D and A increase my blood pressure and the head pain, the only one pill that I can take without any adverse effect is the Centrum...
Anyway, Is it normal that I have to do all the work, the research and find out what is my problem??? The answer is no... it'S the job of my PDoc...and i'm not getting better, my mental state decrease to the point that I can't now leaving my house without facing powerfull anxiety and a lot of symptoms who just make me unable to appreciate the time I spend with my friends... and the amount of time I spend out the house is getting lower and lower...And now, I also feel bad at home... especially when i'm alone... I have to go in the bed with my cellphone, in case I wake up in panic or have a heart problem... being alone in my bedroom in the basement make me fear that nobody will hear me if I cry loud and feel bad and I will not be able to be rescue... When i'm alone at home and I go in the bed for a nap, I let the door not look, in case I have to call the 911 and will need help...
No quality of life...
Anyway, thanks for your advises...
Will see my Family Doc the 6 april and ask for bloodwork and hormones test.
Last night, with the help of my best friend, I was able to go to the shopping center... Driving th car is harder and harder... The ligths from the other cars make me blind...and trigger panic... and the fact that I have no reflex make me over sensitive to all the things around me... the others cars, peoples who walk on the street.. I always fear of doing a car crash because i'm not in a good health...
Anyway, I go to the best natural products store we have in town... And best is a BIG word... I mean that in the Quebec state, the natural products are very well control and we canno't find a lot of products like in the USA... I was surprise, I see a bottle of GABA pills... 45 $ for 60 pills... so expensive... I was looking for Inositol also because it's good for panic disorder, but they don't have this in the Canada...
I found the B5 and B6 vitamins alone, normally in the drugstore, we find only Vitamin B complex with all the B vitamins inside and in slow release caps, but I have a hard time to take them. I have high blood pressure and irregular pulse rate when I take a 50mg dose day of Vitamin B complex.
The B5 and B6 alone are in 250 mg dose... I find it to be high... for me... maybe I should start them with 1/4 of pill a day? I know that too much B6 vitamin can lead to high blood pressure and since i'm a lot sensitive to heart palpitations and have high blood pressure and irregular pulse rate, maybe a lower dose will be more good for me...to not increase the anxiety at least.
For the Licorice, I found only the deglycyrrhizinated liquorice ... 400 mg... I don't know if it's doing the same thing than the regular licorice on the cortisol? I know the deglycyrrhizinated liquorice is safer and don't cause high blood pressure... the regular one can do it. They don't sell the regular Licorice... well in the Quebec province... maybe somewhere else in the Canada...
For the syberian ginseng, I found only the Russian ginseng... I don't buy it... it was very expensive and in liquid form... Is it the same thing than the Siberian??? I know that Siberia is a part of Russia... but who know... lol
For the diet, thanks for your advise... will start it today !!! I already see that I have bad habits.. I eat a lot of bread, wheat and white rice and things like that... also, since I stop drinking coffee, I have the bad habit to drink cereal beverage, made of roast barley... it can be not good for me... and I use false sugar (Equal) who is not good also... will go buy the Stevia at the wallmart tonight ... They seel it for a cheap price.
Will do some research today to have a example of a menu for 1 day... I Try it in the past, but I don't keep the web link... I think changing my bad food habits will help for sure.
I can told you that I can't tolerate Soda drink now, I mean the one without caffeine like Sprite or 7'up... diet or not... Each time I drink one glass of it, I feel worse after... Same thing if I eat fast food like Mcdonald, fried foods or salty food... It's seem that i'm sensible to sugar and salt and fat also...
For the exercises, the cardio make me anxious for sure, adrenaline release probably, I remember that at the gym, when I was looking at me in a mirror, my eyes pupils was all dark!!! And I had a not stable pulse rate also...
I was not able to run on the treadmill because of the dizziness and all the others cardio machines was doing the same effect on me, after 1-2 minutes I was a lot dizzi and had to stop because if I was staying in the machine, I will had a panic attack for sure and nausea feeling...
BUT, I experience the same with the muscles exercises!!! Strange no??? Lifting weight, working my legs muscles or things like that was doing the same effect on me.
I start feeling a difficulty to breath and after I became dizzy, especially after I just ending a series of 10 repetitions of movements on a machine... I remember that I had a lot of panic attacks just after I stop the muscles exercises or while I was doing them...
It was the same on the bicycle, after 5 minutes, at a low speed and normal tension, I was feeling very weak, dizzy, especially when my pulse rate was reaching the 120 and more... pulse rate trigger panic on me... as well as head pain and migraine...
BUT, I also see a patern in the way panic attacks occurs at the gym... When I was doing exercises near my best friend, I was feeling more ok... not good but not bad... I had dizzi moments and weak moments, but panic attack show up only the first couple of weeks I start the gym...
Panic and physical fatigue occur more often when the gym was full of peoples... probably because of the social phobia...and the agoraphobia...and all the bright lights and loud sounds... and the fact that I had to take my shower there, I hate being nude in fromt of other persons... because of the weight loose and the extra skin...The looker room was something I had a lot of difficulty to handle...
One thing is sure... the gym trigger panic on me...
Another thing is sure, exercises was always harder for me... even as a child, it was difficult for me. I was poor in sports and had no physical toughness. I was never able to run for a long time and always walk slower than normal people... don't know why... Maybe because I was fat???
In a certain way, I understand that I can be seem like a hard and difficult patient to treat, from a PDoc point of view... but I don't do it on purpose and my anxiety disorders are real...
Well.. thanks again... for the B5 and B6 and Russian ginseng, can you told me if it's good or not?... Also, for the Inositol... or the Gaba... is it doing something good for anxiety?...
Thanks for your answer!!!
Vincent ;-)
Posted by bleauberry on March 6, 2010, at 9:22:05
In reply to Re: Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia) » bleauberry, posted by Vincent_QC on March 5, 2010, at 10:06:16
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> I have another choice, it will be to say to the PDoc that I drop him, the next time I see him, and return only with my Family Doctor,I like this idea a lot! In a book called Amalgam Illness, the author who is a PHd said the worst thing to do is see specialists. The best thing to do is find one average doctor who is willing to take time with you, cooperate with you, and learn new things right along with you in your journey. Specialists can really screw things up, because they don't see the big picture.
> Since I have that PDoc, my mental state decrease so much...Well, that certainly says a lot about the quality of his care. He probably should not be practicing medicine.
>> Anyway, Is it normal that I have to do all the work, the research and find out what is my problem???
Well, this is a tricky question. If we are talking about someone with a straight forward fairly simple problem, the doc should be able to do all the work. But when things get into more complicating and confusing realms, we do indeed have to do our own research.
I hate to admit it, but the truth is, if we don't take charge of our own healing journey, no one else is going to do it for us. It's that simple.
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> Will see my Family Doc the 6 april and ask for bloodwork and hormones test.I can't help but wonder. Have you ever been bitten by a tick? Have you ever had silver fillings in your teeth?
Have you ever taken antibiotics?
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> For the Licorice, I found only the deglycyrrhizinated liquorice ...This modified version of licorice does not have the enzyme that slows down the breakdown of cortisol. So for adrenal fatigue, it is useless. It is however good for the gut.
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> For the syberian ginseng, I found only the Russian ginseng... I don't buy it... it was very expensive and in liquid form... Is it the same thing than the Siberian???It's hard to say. What you want to look for is "Eleuthero". That's the name of the plant. It actually isn't really even a ginseng. It got that as a nickname.
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> Another thing is sure, exercises was always harder for me...I would avoid all cardio or aerobic exercises. Work on the weights and stretching, and stop or rest when you begin to breath hard. Don't stress the adrenals.
> Well.. thanks again... for the B5 and B6 and Russian ginseng, can you told me if it's good or not?... Also, for the Inositol... or the Gaba... is it doing something good for anxiety?...Inositol, honestly I've never seen anybody get a great thing from it. Gaba however can be good. It supposedly does not cross the blood brain barrier, but when I tried it it sure did. Almost instant calming of the mind and body. It seems to work best in combination with Glycine and Magnesium. Glycine is also really good on its own. For the B vitamins, we just have to try them one at a time, because we all respond very differently to them. The B vitamin that is definitely calming is Niacinamide (a specific form of Niacin...no other form of Niacin is the same).
I'm trying to think of what diseases can cause the bizarre things you have experienced and are experiecing. I can only think of three. Lyme disease, lead/mercury toxicity, and candida. You fit the profile very strongly for any of those.
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Posted by Phillipa on March 10, 2010, at 13:22:42
In reply to Re: Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia), posted by bleauberry on March 6, 2010, at 9:22:05
BB you would not believe what happened to me at an alternative docs yesterday it's too unbelievable the docs wife makeing me hold her breast to feel the cancer she claims her husband healed well if healed why is it still there big as a tennis ball. Should have run then didn't then he tried to convince me to triple my thyroid no testing, and take about a thousand dollars a week of supplements and pretending my wrist was telling him what body organs needed help and what . I'm totally tramatized. Yikes. Love Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on March 11, 2010, at 20:29:31
In reply to Re: Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia) » bleauberry, posted by Phillipa on March 10, 2010, at 13:22:42
Yeah, I know. It is alternative clinicians like that who give the good ones a bad name. The guy obviously has not a clue.
A good one does these things:
Detailed testing of thyroid and adrenal.
Testing of stool samples.
Heavy metal testing.
Detailed testing of the eyes (heavy metals, Lyme, candida, and adrenals...all leave telltale patterns on the retina that can be seen with the proper equipment)
Thorough history workup.
Specific diet recommendations for specific symptoms.
Superior knowledge of which herbs are appropriate.As with all medicine, it is still a guessing game, but they don't do it in the hocus-pocus way this guy did.
I'm glad you had the wits about you to recognize fraud when you see it. Other people aren't so wise and get taken by that nonsense.
> BB you would not believe what happened to me at an alternative docs yesterday it's too unbelievable the docs wife makeing me hold her breast to feel the cancer she claims her husband healed well if healed why is it still there big as a tennis ball. Should have run then didn't then he tried to convince me to triple my thyroid no testing, and take about a thousand dollars a week of supplements and pretending my wrist was telling him what body organs needed help and what . I'm totally tramatized. Yikes. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2010, at 21:45:48
In reply to Re: Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia) » Phillipa, posted by bleauberry on March 11, 2010, at 20:29:31
Blue both of us were so upset cancelled check for $230 at 2am and Greg changed his credit card at my advise as the clock ran over by five minutes and it was $20 more so he charged it. Then he left messages on the office machine and the doc left messages he would shred my check and cancel his charges to the MC. And after googling found disciplinary actions on him one for not checking labs on a person with cancer who the doc claimed had said he wanted no cancer treatment. I'm still tramatized seriously. Love Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on March 12, 2010, at 20:22:30
In reply to Re: Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia) » bleauberry, posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2010, at 21:45:48
Phillipa, here's a similar story. So you aren't alone. The difference here is that the doctor is a major Dermatologist in a major city and is THE guy recommended by the largest hospital in the State and by GPs all over the place. This derm is the guy to go to.
So I walk in his office. My condition is Hidradenitis, but I don't know. I think it is boils or carbuncles or furuncles. Anyway, he is sitting in a chair, prescription pad and pen already in his hand, and asks me, "what can I do for you"? Excuse me. How about put the prescription pad down, put some gloves on, get a magnifying glass, and take a look? How about ask my history? How about ask what my symptoms are?
In the waiting room I had been watching patients go in and out, about every 10 minutes. He's making $300 on each, every 10 minutes. They all came out with a prescription paper in their hand. Ten friggin minutes? Come on. Skin problems are complicated. You can't do justice in 10 minutes.
I actually had to ask him if he would take a look. He reluctantly agreed, closed the window blinds (as if he is not accustomed to actually looking under anyone's clothes), never put gloves on, never touched and probed, never used a magnifying glass to get a good look. Heck, he didn't even have an examination table in the room. The whole visual examination took maybe not even 1/3 of one minute. He gave me a prescription for and said to check back in 6 weeks.
My insurance paid him, but I didn't pay him my part of it, and I refused. He did not put up a fight about it.
So months later I see another dermatologist. This guy was the real stuff. Heck, his nurse gave me about a 15 minute verbal history exam, got me undressed and clothed in a gown, laid out on the table for doctor. It was obvious these people were going to actually do some diagnostic work. The doc came in. Very nice guy. And immediately I could tell he knew what the heck he was doing. Gloves, yes. Magnifying glass, yes. He not only looked deeply at the problem area, but actually looked all over my whole body. I mean, he was on the hunt and wasn't going to miss anything. He said it looks like Hidradenitis. And then he I really appreciated his humbleness and honesty when he told me Hidradenitis has no known cause or cure, and that it is frustrating for him to treat it, because he is accustomed to being successful with other skin diseases but Hidradenitis is basically trial and error, manage as best you can. The guy was awesome.
So there you have it. A quack, who happened to be viewed as the top dog. And another guy, not so well known, who was absolutely thorough, expert, and professional in every way. He left no stone unturned. He sent me home with two prescriptions and 2 OTC recommendations, said to try each one at a time. The entire exam was probably 45 minutes, and $100 cheaper than the quack.
For anyone out on google getting a hit on this, the quack's name is Dr Rosner in Portland Maine.
I'm really sorry you ran into a quack. Unfortunately, even top dogs in the profession can be quacks, as I discovered. And to think, that idiot is the guy the hospital and GPs refer hundreds of patients to. Geez.
Posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2010, at 22:19:27
In reply to Re: Medication Phobia (pharmacophobia) » Phillipa, posted by bleauberry on March 12, 2010, at 20:22:30
BB I'm still tramatized seriously by him all I can picture is that wife with a cancerous boob thrusting it into my hand and saying she's cured by energy and that finger of his under my wrist supposedly telling him by flicking what organs need what. We got all the money back he couldn't wait to give it back well as far as I know check is shredded. Goggle disciplination actions Clarence E Norris MD Matthews NC page l8 I think? Love Phillipa ps will list a rating at least?
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