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Posted by JenStar on July 16, 2004, at 18:00:58
hi all,
I was wondering: How much of what you talk about with Babble-Friends can you / do you discuss with non-Babble Friends? Is this a primary outlet for these discussions, or is it one of several places where you can get support & feedback?I'm asking because I've found it to be very therapeutic here. I've found several hypochondriacs like me, and they understand what I've been going through. I don't feel judged and found to be stupid / lacking / weak / etc....not that my "regular" friends do that (they don't!) but they also don't really get some of the things that I'm going through.
Just curious.
JenStar
Posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 18:04:33
In reply to Question for all?, posted by JenStar on July 16, 2004, at 18:00:58
Oh, g*d. This place knows more about me and what's going on than my entire body of contacts IRL. For me, that's what is therapeutic about it.
Posted by SandyWeb on July 16, 2004, at 18:47:57
In reply to Re: Question for all? » JenStar, posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 18:04:33
And we continue to love you, PartlyCloudy, even though you are BONKERS!! LOL!!!!!
(((((PartlyCloudy)))))
Sandy
Posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 19:01:22
In reply to Re: Question for all? » partlycloudy, posted by SandyWeb on July 16, 2004, at 18:47:57
Isn't that the password to register at Dr.Bob.org ? It's BONKERS or WHACKED or ON TOUR....
Posted by SandyWeb on July 16, 2004, at 19:16:09
In reply to Question for all?, posted by JenStar on July 16, 2004, at 18:00:58
Hi JenStar,
See, I can call PartyCloud (as I affectionately call her) such names as BONKERS and PSYCHO, and she'll just say, "Yup, that's me!""
Now, if you told your "normal" friends that you were WACKED (is this PartyCloud's new name now?), they would probably back away from you, making sure your hands were in full view!! LOL!!
Yes, I think this site is a wonderful way for us to communicate with others who GET what we're saying. There is a sense of comfort and security in knowing that there are others that feel the same way or are going through the same thing, and that allows for the outpouring of conversations that we would NEVER mention to most people!!
I can also say that I'm sure that Dr. Bob has intervened on the behalf of more than one person on this board in order to ensure their safety. It's a safe place, JenStar.
Hugs,
Sandy
Posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 19:25:53
In reply to Re: Question for all? » JenStar, posted by SandyWeb on July 16, 2004, at 19:16:09
Sorry. Only weather related names accepted here. MostlySunny is the next hoped for name; followed by JustRight. That's JustRight for
flying a kite
running on a beach
reading a book
staying outside with NO BUGS
sleeping, dozing on a sofa for an entire day
Posted by SandyWeb on July 16, 2004, at 19:29:52
In reply to WHACKED???? » SandyWeb, posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 19:25:53
> Sorry. Only weather related names accepted here. MostlySunny is the next hoped for name; followed by JustRight.<
Ummmm.....isn't Just Right the name of a cereal??? What are you trying to say to us? Maybe that you're stiff and crunchy, or that you're better with milk????
Sandy
Posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 19:36:54
In reply to Re: WHACKED???? » partlycloudy, posted by SandyWeb on July 16, 2004, at 19:29:52
> Ummmm.....isn't Just Right the name of a cereal??? What are you trying to say to us? Maybe that you're stiff and crunchy, or that you're better with milk????
>
And I thought you knew me, Sandy. I am not only stiff and crunchy, I prefer my cereal *without* milk. That's the tough cookie you got here, sister.> Sandy
partyCloud just for you :)
>
Posted by ghost on July 16, 2004, at 21:16:13
In reply to Question for all?, posted by JenStar on July 16, 2004, at 18:00:58
haha. you guys made me giggle.
i've told a couple of people about "the crazy board i'm on" but that's about it. one girl knows that it helps me a lot to relate to other people, but she's on a lot of different boards herself, so she understands. but i don't go too much into it. kinda like therapy-- i don't talk about that much either :)
Posted by cubic_me on July 17, 2004, at 5:12:00
In reply to Re: Question for all?, posted by ghost on July 16, 2004, at 21:16:13
My online friends know much much more about me than anyone IRL except my boyfiend. When my boyfriend and I were still 'just good friends' he found my online journal, and that changed everything between us. Then he knew about my online life and what was going on inside my mind, he saw photos of my self injury and poems I had written.
I still have online places I go to talk online that he doesn't know about, but he's happy for me to do that. It's good to have a place that's totally separate, accepting, and just for you.
Posted by ghost on July 17, 2004, at 10:29:08
In reply to Re: Question for all?, posted by cubic_me on July 17, 2004, at 5:12:00
Posted by fires on July 17, 2004, at 22:34:51
In reply to Question for all?, posted by JenStar on July 16, 2004, at 18:00:58
>>I've found several hypochondriacs like me<<
What about your earlier post:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20040716/msgs/367009.html
What am I to believe?
Thanks
Posted by karen_kay on July 18, 2004, at 9:50:06
In reply to Re: Question for all?, posted by fires on July 17, 2004, at 22:34:51
fires,
so, if one is a hypochondriac, does that mean that they never have health problems?why don't you pick on me for a while? i assure you, i don't mind it and it won't hurt me at all.
and you won't have to look very hard at all either. i'm anything but consistent...
so, if you are looking for inconsistency, i assure you, i'm your gal! and i really don't mind either!
have at it!
Posted by ghost on July 18, 2004, at 10:46:47
In reply to Re: Question for all?, posted by fires on July 17, 2004, at 22:34:51
Merriam Webster's defines hypochondria as the following: extreme depression of mind or spirits often centered on imaginary physical ailments.
JenStar says they found physical (that means non-imaginary) evidence for an ailment.
So basically, you just called her a liar.
Nice. *Real* nice.
Posted by 64bowtie on July 18, 2004, at 11:14:32
In reply to Re: Question for all? » fires, posted by karen_kay on July 18, 2004, at 9:50:06
KK,
> so, if one is a hypochondriac, does that mean that they never have health problems?
>(Here I go getting-cerebral again.....)
Of the nine senses, the vagus nerve is reponsible for collecting the "wellness" stuff, and providing a moment by moment snapshot of our....... wellness.
If we view sickness as an event, we deny illness and sickness as part of life as a whole; a process not an event. Children attach expectations to an event; they don't relate to process.
As adults, [if] we keep the habits of obligations and expectations, we perform ever worser and worser, the older we get. However, if between the ages of 15 and 25, we gently and appropriately move into habits of plans, goals, and personal contracts, giving up our childhood obligations (from us) and expectations (to us). We stop seeing sickeness, elation, tiredness, being drunk or loaded, or being angry, as important events. Instead, they are all part of the process.
We can begin a new habit of wearing our adulthood as a "nice-fitting suit". Hypochondria will stop ruling our awareness, and we will start getting sick and well just like everybody else.
I'm not taking any thing away. I am adding to our "war-chest" of talents and attributes. Be curious. See how it fits.
Rod
Posted by 64bowtie on July 18, 2004, at 11:26:10
In reply to Re: Question for all? » fires, posted by ghost on July 18, 2004, at 10:46:47
Ghost,
> So basically, you just called her a liar.
>
> Nice. *Real* nice.
>
<<<hypo = low, chondria = welness-image... This implies attitude... Isn't attitude sourced in opinion? Can't Jenstar have an opinion, fires have an opinion, you have an opinion, and I have an opinion, with-out any of us rolling out our bad-habit of getting hostile about any difference we might see? (only a question..... somewhat rhetorical, even)Rod
Posted by JenStar on July 18, 2004, at 11:35:50
In reply to Re: Question for all?, posted by fires on July 17, 2004, at 22:34:51
oh, good question! In addition to having some "real" issues (that were misdiagnosed), I also -- all my life -- have suffered from 'imaginary illnesses.' It started as a child when I saw things on channel 11 (Chicago) about surgeries & illnesses & was SURE I had them. I would cry and cry and my mom couldn't comfort me. Later on, as I got older, I "got" cancer multiple times (not really, of course - just thought I had it), had a bone disease, and lately thought I had MS/ALS.
Usually, though, I can tell when I have something "really" wrong, and it frustrates me when a doc doesn't listen.
Anyway, thank yOU for listening!
JenStar
Posted by 64bowtie on July 18, 2004, at 13:15:49
In reply to Re: Question for all?, posted by JenStar on July 18, 2004, at 11:35:50
Posted by partlycloudy on July 18, 2004, at 13:34:39
In reply to Re: Question for all? ya'mean WTTW??? (nm) » JenStar, posted by 64bowtie on July 18, 2004, at 13:15:49
Posted by 64bowtie on July 18, 2004, at 13:44:42
In reply to WTTW please translate this acronym (nm) » 64bowtie, posted by partlycloudy on July 18, 2004, at 13:34:39
jus' bein' a smart alec....
JenStar said she saw something on channel 11 (chicago)land
Rod
Posted by partlycloudy on July 18, 2004, at 13:50:35
In reply to WTTW please translate - Channel 11 PBS ChiCity » partlycloudy, posted by 64bowtie on July 18, 2004, at 13:44:42
I googled this forever - thanks for 'splaining.
Posted by B2chica on July 18, 2004, at 14:53:45
In reply to Re: Re: Question for all? -- try this » karen_kay, posted by 64bowtie on July 18, 2004, at 11:14:32
>>(Here I go getting-cerebral again.....)
>>Of the nine senses, the vagus nerve is reponsible for collecting the "wellness" stuff, and providing a moment by moment snapshot of our....... wellness.refresh me, is the vagus the 7th or the 10th CN?
...wait, the 7th is the auditory right???
-yes i realize this is not jepardy and probably noone else in a "right-mind" (whatever that is) cares...but when i got a question i's got's to get it answered!
b2c.
Posted by terrics on July 18, 2004, at 16:14:47
In reply to Question for all?, posted by JenStar on July 16, 2004, at 18:00:58
To me this is my therapeutic home. Therapy hurts. Babble heals or at least gives support. Almost everyone is kind, caring, and intelligent. It is a good place to be. terrics
Posted by terrics on July 18, 2004, at 16:24:45
In reply to Re: Question for all? » fires, posted by karen_kay on July 18, 2004, at 9:50:06
you can post to me if you want. Karen does not have to be alone....terrics
Posted by cubic_me on July 18, 2004, at 17:23:37
In reply to Re: Re: Question for all? ...CN? » 64bowtie, posted by B2chica on July 18, 2004, at 14:53:45
>
> refresh me, is the vagus the 7th or the 10th CN?Yes, it's the 10th CN, though I'm not sure about the theory of it being responsible for wellness -surely there is alot more to it than that. I've been taught that it mainly serves as a symathetic regulator of autonomic responses, but know little of its sensory functions. Any ideas?
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