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Posted by alexandra_k on July 1, 2009, at 11:27:54
> "The symptom arises where the world failed, where the circuit of symbolic communication was broken: it is a kind of 'prolongation of communication by other means': the failed, repressed word articulates itself in a coded, ciphered form. The implication of this is that the symptom can not only be interpreted but is, so to speak, formed with an eye to its interpretation in the psychoanalytic cure the symptom is always addressed to the analyst, it is an appeal to him to deliver its hidden message This is the basic point: in its very constitution, the symptom implies the field of the big Other as consistent, complete, because its very formation is an appeal to the Other which contains its meaning " [Zizek, 1989: 73]
Lacan.
I've been on at him about that for a while. Probably misnamed but perhaps a kind of 'observer paradox' (perhaps perhaps but I don't understand physics well enough). DSM aims to purely DESCRIBE symptoms (and it fails miserably with such causally defined disorders as 'post-traumatic stress' but anyway) the ACT of describing ALTERS the conceptualization that both clients and clinicians have of the behaviors. This ALTERS the behavior of clients (due to the way they conceive of themself and the way their clinicians treat them). Thus a new edition of the DSM is needed to keep up with the way the symptoms / behavior has evolved where it wouldn't have evolved in quite the way it did if it weren't for our activity of trying to describe it.
What do you want me to be?
Yeah okay so perhaps the quote isn't quite saying that. What to do with someone who explicitly takes pride in being unclear? Why, shove him off for the continental philosophers to deal with, thats what. The point of philosophy is to show the fly the way out of the fly bottle. W. Anyone who understands me realizes that this doesn't make sense. W. As you can see analytic philosophy isn't much better. I guess... All I really care about is what HE thought about Lacan. I suppose... I could always ask him. No. Never. lol.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 1, 2009, at 11:36:21
In reply to evolution, posted by alexandra_k on July 1, 2009, at 11:27:54
I'm done by the way. That thing I need to write... The deadline... I'm done. It's done. I missed the bus (literally) but I didn't miss the bus on doing the damned thing :-)
And I made macaroni cheese. Comfort food that I like very much given the state of cheese in Australia (with it not being orange) and stuff. Cheese and bacon and for some reason peas. Not quite sure what it is about peas but I think they should be compulsory for macaroni cheese.
So... See when I wake up... And back to the ward. I wonder... If I'll collapse tomorrow now that it is done or whether I'll get all excited about conference conference yay. Not too late to bail in fact... It is more about the 'decision' to get organized really. Will I want to curl up and go away or will I want to come back to the world? I get a little scared sometimes... Know they didn't mean for this to happen... But I'll miss some things about the ward very much. Like the doc there three days a week and the registrar there for five. The nurses who give great hugs. The nurses who are good to talk to. The slightly manic girl who thinks she shouldn't have to sleep at all... Whole bunch of people. I just wish I was little and someone could take care of me.
Or maybe... I just wish I could see a therapist more often, really. So it really felt like I can a secure base from which to go off exploring. Now... I feel shaky in the world by myself. You can have this back now, thanks, I don't like the noise it makes.
Posted by muffled on July 1, 2009, at 13:52:24
In reply to Re: evolution, posted by alexandra_k on July 1, 2009, at 11:36:21
(((Alex)))
I love how you write. Don't allus understand it all, but somehow, I love it.
Sorry things are lonely and stuff.
What happened w/your T?
Take care,
M
Posted by Sigismund on July 1, 2009, at 15:15:51
In reply to evolution, posted by alexandra_k on July 1, 2009, at 11:27:54
Lublijana would be a nice place to visit. I wonder from some of his stuff if Zizek just says things to annoy people.
The DSM was created as a reference so that people would know what various terms meant. Now it is being used diagnostically. That's what my shrink says, along with various other aspersions on the industry. The DSM says more about human aspirations. You can learn more about psychology by reading a decent novel.
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