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Posted by dreamerz on December 19, 2002, at 22:20:09
Sorry Phil for theiving your post but it says things that I'd want to say...I myself being a inarticulate duh dunce .
I have befriended another father figure cause I'm just a big baby , who also is dealing with depression SAD-not severe but can empathize so I'm feeling a *little* better.
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> I love these boards-two days ago was 4 years that I've been here. I am getting down myself because of so many suicide posts. Not because of the posts themselves, moreso because there's not a damn thing I can do except type.
> Recently, being told bt email that I was nice to try and help, now go away.
> I'm not responding anymore to these cries for help. Most don't want to hear it or are uncapable of hearing it.
> I understand the issue, having been there a few times but if I were going to kill myself, nobody here would ever know. You wouldn't get advance warning.
> You know that people don't really want to die when they post that they want to die. If I want to die, it's very easy. I do carbon monoxide or blow my brains out...done deal. No use thinking of the best way, I think it would be most unpleasant by any method.
> Why does this treatable illness take so many, so young, so clueless. I pray for those that are hurting and I pray that I can stop hurting myself.
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> Had to get that out of my system. It isn't aimed at anyone but at everyone hurting so bad that all they want is to be dead for Christmas.
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> How many suicides could be saved by just getting people to care just enough to say Help me. And then let us try to help.
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> I'm down today myself so this may come across wrong.
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Hoping you will feel better soon Phil...that goes for everyone also.
Tina I 'm not as ill as you are at the moment but I have been..life *IS* hell with just little sparkles of relief.
Someone once said that if I commit suicide I'd have to re live my life over again until I got it right ..CRAP! said I..but whoes to say he ain't right...Or you could be administered endless tunes from Barry Manilow for eternity!
Posted by Tabitha on December 20, 2002, at 0:48:15
In reply to Re: Suicidal people everywhere » Phil, posted by dreamerz on December 19, 2002, at 22:20:09
happy babble anniversary. or if not happy, then just "anniversary" to you.
i wish you'd back off from doing so much that you get burnt out. remind yourself you can't save anyone else. they have to save themselves. all you can really do is offer your presence and your empathy. and you're under no obligation to even do that. here I am, probably hoping I can save Phil from getting burnt out. cause I sure can't save myself.
my burnout arena is mostly my job though. here at babble, i don't often respond to the people in pain that seems like it might overwhelm me. I admire all the folks who can reply supportively, but I know I'll just get myself in trouble by expecting results from my efforts that I probably can't get. i personally don't have good enough boundaries to reach out to everyone.
at one point i decided I'd experiment with not replying to posts that triggered that particular anxiety. and you know what? in nearly every case, a whole bunch of other people wrote great replies. it wasn't all up to me after all.
excuse me if this is preachy or just sounds like so much b.s.
take care of yourself
Posted by Miller on December 22, 2002, at 10:35:49
In reply to Re: dear Phil, posted by Tabitha on December 20, 2002, at 0:48:15
Phil,
Since I have been in very deep despair the last couple of months, I read your post as if it was directed to me. I think you are wrong. When a person tries to help by posting and giving advise and concern, it IS true that we may try to push the person away. However, at least in my case, I am more looking for the enlightened person to realise by pushing away, I want more. I want more attention or more advise or more concern. I want to keep the dialog going.
If you replied to a suicide post saying "I think you are making a mistake. Don't do it." and my reply was "Ok" what would be left of the support? You would say, in your mind, she is ok now. By pushing and stryggling, we are trying to keep the communication open.
You may be right about people not posting if they were truly going to take the plunge into death. But, we don't know if we don't answer the posts about suicide that they would decide to finish their goal tomorrow or Tuesday.
So, although you may feel rejected or unable to help, I think you are wrong. People so far down that this board is their only friend at a point and time, don't know how to express their thankfulness or their true intent.
Please don't give up on the desperate. I have a feeling I may need you very badly one day.
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