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Posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 17:46:52
Hi folks.
Today I asked my doc if any new fabulous drugs had come out and she finally mentioned Reboxetine. It's not new but for some reason she'd never mentioned it before. But it's banned in the US. I found this website: xxx
Where I can order it.But first I want to hear from some people who've taken it. I'm currently on Wellbutrin so if anyone can actually compare it to that, that'd be best, but I'd also like to hear from people who've just had experiences with this drug.
Thanks,
sl
Posted by King Vultan on June 1, 2004, at 19:27:15
In reply to Reboxetine?, posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 17:46:52
Dr. Bob isn't too keen on importing drugs into the US that are illegal here, and IMO, you might just as well try either desipramine or Strattera. Both of these drugs are selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors just as reboxetine is. I've tried both and would recommend trying desipramine first due to its relatively mild side effect profile and low cost. I found desipramine to be moderately activating with moderate insomnia and Strattera to be somewhat sedating in the daytime with worse insomnia at night. YMMV.
Of the three, only desipramine is a tricyclic, but all of them of are capable of causing "tricyclic-like" side effects such as dry mouth, constipation, and urinary hesitation due to their effects on norepinephrine reuptake. Because they are all powerful norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors, their therapeutic effects are relatively similar (though not identical); the same may be said of their side effects.
Todd
Posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 20:03:13
In reply to Re: Reboxetine?, posted by King Vultan on June 1, 2004, at 19:27:15
NEVER again will I take any tricyclic.
You find me Strattera for $60/month and I'll sell you my precious Death-Valley waterfront property."FDA Regulations
The Following Criteria Must be Met to Import Medications into the United StatesIt is legal for US residents to import medications from outside the US provided the following conditions are met:
A) The product was purchased for personal use and does not exceed a 3 month supply.
B) The product is not for resale.
C) The intended use of the product is appropriately identified.
D) The patient seeking to import the product affirms in writing that is for the patient's own use.
E) The patient provides the name and address of the doctor licensed in the US responsible for his or her treatment with the product.
F) The medication is not a controlled substance, e.g. sleeping pills, Valium, narcotics. "If you will not or cannot give me info on Reboxetine, kindly SKIP the response to me, there's plenty of other posts to reply to.
Posted by TJO on June 1, 2004, at 20:44:35
In reply to Re: Reboxetine?, posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 20:03:13
> If you will not or cannot give me info on Reboxetine, kindly SKIP the response to me, there's plenty of other posts to reply to.
I tried reboxetine several years ago. So, too, did several of my friends and acquaintances. I had quite a bit of information to offer you. However, I will kindly skip a response here in order to make up for the one given previously in error.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on June 1, 2004, at 20:49:52
In reply to Re: Reboxetine?, posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 20:03:13
Posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 21:37:53
In reply to Re: Reboxetine? » sl, posted by TJO on June 1, 2004, at 20:44:35
How very childish.
Sorry but when I ask for info on a given drug, I don't expect to be told "well you shouldn't have that, try this or the other thing".
I don't think that's too much to ask.But y'know, if you don't WANT to help me, PLEASE DO skip it. That was my whole lousy point.
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 1, 2004, at 23:43:13
In reply to Re: Reboxetine?, posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 21:37:53
> it's banned in the US. I found this website: xxx
> Where I can order it.> How very childish.
Please don't exchange information that could be used to import into the US medication that hasn't been approved by the FDA or post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you have any questions or comments about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#illegal
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civilor redirect a follow-up to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Sharing something about your own issues and their possible role in your reaction might be an interesting exercise -- and might help others respond to you supportively.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 2, 2004, at 8:24:38
In reply to Reboxetine?, posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 17:46:52
I can only give you my experience of reboxetine.. I'm in UK where its available..
First time I tried was 3 years ago, when I was alot more sick than I am now.. for 3 weeks on it I cried solidly.. then I tried it for 2 months again last year (October / November) and within a week of starting it I started to get very bad anxiety, after 6 weeks I was having constant panic attacks and in such a wound up, ready spring mode I came off.. it made me decide to come off all psych medication (it was my 30th med!!!)
A close friend of mine has been on it for 3 years now though and has found it very usefuil for his depression
Nikki
Posted by sl on June 3, 2004, at 10:03:42
In reply to Re: please be civil » sl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 1, 2004, at 23:43:13
> post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
> Sharing something about your own issues and their possible role in your reaction might be an interesting exercise -- and might help others respond to you supportively.
Actually _I_ am the one who feels put down.
It's a major pet peeve to me and I am very careful not to do it to others.Q: "Can you help me with X problem with Y software?" (reasonable question)
A: "Oh you don't really want that, here's how to set up Z software instead," (answer implying the asker hasn't researched options and is need of education and redirection)Q: "Can you give me info about X med?" (reasonable question)
A: "Oh that's a bad idea [cuz I believe so] and you should try Y-med and/or Z-med." (answer implying asker hasn't done the reseach and hasn't exhausted all possible options and is in need of pushing)
Posted by ramsea on June 3, 2004, at 10:37:37
In reply to Reboxetine?, posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 17:46:52
tOOK THIS IN uk SEVERAL years go. It is spposed to help patients regain social abilities and acts a lot on that sort of thing. Now I think this med is going to be good stuff for some folks, but I am unsure. It freaked me out the first time I used it, but I am bipolar. It gave me chills all the time. I felt agitated, but also able to do stuff. So you know, I can't help you much. It cause some immediate weight gain, and I'm a normal weight without meds. I kind of liked it though. Maybe coz I've gotADD traits. It's activating and never sedating. If Wellbutrin didn't agitate you into a nightmare, well maybethese are more stimulatory, ths the failure of them for me. Hope this made an inch of sense, or even a little ant of sense.
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 3, 2004, at 11:31:02
In reply to Reboxetine?, posted by sl on June 1, 2004, at 17:46:52
if you re-read what King Vultan posted, he was making suggestions due to the fact that reboxetone is not available in the US. Dr Bob states on this site that we are NOT allowed to discuss ways to illegally import meds, and so King Vultan was suggesting alternatives.
I should have read all the replies before posting mine, shame there is no delete option for us.
Posted by sl on June 3, 2004, at 20:28:07
In reply to Re: Reboxetine? » sl, posted by NikkiT2 on June 3, 2004, at 11:31:02
Maybe I was unclear: I am not looking for just "something else" to try. I am looking for something BETTER than wb. This Reboxetine is the only drug my doc could name that she thought _would_have_ been a good substitute for wb, because I said I'd like to have less of the particular side-effects I have now.
I don't want to replace them with a whole new set, like I would with a tricyclic, and even mildly sedating is out of the question.The info I posted about it being legal to import meds under the listed circumstances, is that WRONG? Cuz if that's right, it's legal to HAVE it but not to GET it here, or dispense it here.
Either way, I wanted to know about the drug. Not how to get it, or how legal it was, those are things for me to check into and weigh in, once I've found out about the med itself.
A great big thanks for the people who actually gave me info about the effects of the med. I very much appreciate it. :)
sl
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