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Posted by Katgirl on December 2, 2009, at 10:19:06
OK, I'm having a horrible sleep week this week, probably because I just went through a bad spell less than a week ago, but mostly because I'm out of wack with this cold/flu type virus and can't meditate/exercise like I usually do.
I would be fine if my not sleeping was simply insomnia. But that isn't what happens to me. I lie down to go to sleep, and if I fall asleep within the first hour I'm fine. If I don't I start having what I can only describe as "body shocks". Feels kind of like an explosion in my chest. Unless I get up and sit up, they will continue about every 15-20 minutes, and eventually my limbs can start "seizing". The odd thing is, there is no emotional content to this. Meaning, there is no terror or dread like what happens in a panic attack. (I learned to stop panic attacks with CBT. These episodes seem immune to CBT). By the morning, however, I am wrecked because of having so much adrenaline poured into my system all night. I actually used to have this nightly until I started sleeping somewhat propped up (which is good for my GERD anyway, so its a win/win). Then it seemed like I was more likely to have an episode when I worried about having them. (If I tried to make plans with someone, I would worry about having a bad night and not being able to follow through with the plans and thus, give myself a bad night.) But quite often they would just happen for no reason I could point to. ie no extra stress or worry. But now they seem to be happening more frequently. (But admitedly I have had a lot more stress this fall)
I have a new GP and I talked to her about it and she pretty much said its your anxiety, here take an SSRI. Then I tried to explain my rather complicated psych history and why I can't take an SSRI and I could just tell from the look on her face that she is never going to take me seriously!
Anyway, I think she is probably right, it probably is just my anxiety. But the seizing thing is weird.I could deal with this when it happend once a week or so, but I've been dealing with this 3 of the last four nights, and its getting really really old. I feel like I'm being attacked by my own body.
Thanks for listening, sorry this isn't the most positive post! K
Posted by manic666 on December 2, 2009, at 12:59:26
In reply to Is this really just anxiety?, posted by Katgirl on December 2, 2009, at 10:19:06
just a question, how did you get over panick attacks with cbt. i did cbt an it didnt help me.it did help a couple of ladies in the group, but they were worried in crowded places.i got over them myself ,but they may come back who can tell. i found the cbt thing laughable an crap, but it wasnt 1 to 1 it was a group of 9 ladies an me.ps . the guys dont do cbt its a bit girly for them the theropist said.i liked the ladies company but they left them hanging in the wind after 8 sessions an said thats it// your on your own. some were worse than the start.
Posted by Phidippus on December 2, 2009, at 14:06:27
In reply to Is this really just anxiety?, posted by Katgirl on December 2, 2009, at 10:19:06
Are you sure you don't have a frontal lobe seizure disorder?
P
Posted by Phillipa on December 3, 2009, at 0:03:25
In reply to Re: Is this really just anxiety? » Katgirl, posted by Phidippus on December 2, 2009, at 14:06:27
Katgirl you have a lot on your plate right now with the EMSAM and parnate issue. And when we sleep sometimes the stress comes out in wierd ways. Also your're on no meds right could be some strange withdrawal? Love Phillipa
Posted by Katgirl on December 3, 2009, at 15:54:03
In reply to Re: Is this really just anxiety? » Katgirl, posted by Phidippus on December 2, 2009, at 14:06:27
Posted by Katgirl on December 3, 2009, at 15:55:58
In reply to Re: phillipa I'm not on Parnate or Emsam :) (nm), posted by Katgirl on December 3, 2009, at 15:54:03
Wouldn't I have had an actual seizure if I had frontal lobe epilepsy? I guess I don't know much about epilepsy to tell you the truth. The arm seizing thing is weird though. That is why I went to the doctor and she pretty much said it was anxiety.
Posted by manic666 on December 4, 2009, at 3:28:56
In reply to Re: is this anxiety/phiddipus, posted by Katgirl on December 3, 2009, at 15:55:58
kat girl baby , anxierty is as many illnesses you let it be,thats what i ment obout cbt,it wont stop a major anxierty attack. panick maybe. you may have anxierty as the doc said,time an the right med will give you a break.
Posted by Phidippus on December 10, 2009, at 18:37:43
In reply to Re: is this anxiety/phiddipus, posted by Katgirl on December 3, 2009, at 15:55:58
Frontal lobe seizures manifest in very unique ways. They can involve limb flailing and dystonic posturing. Some frontal lobe seizures can even be fits of laughter or crying. I have had a frontal lobe seizure and basically the right side of my body started jerking around and I started grunting and making weird sounds.
Wouldn't hurt to visit a neurologist.
P
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