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oppression

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:41:42

so they reckon that professional development could (for teachers) involve them doing secondary level mathematics. because of how new zealanders do really very badly by international measures on maths and science and... literacy... all the things. you know.

but they don't understand teh lengths the govermemnt goes to to keep the people underproductive.

i mean...

i completed a MPhil and they refused to allow external examiners to sign me off.

i don't think you undrestand the lengths the goernment goes to to keep the kids (and adults too) underachieving in maths and science and... all the things.

the trajectory is all wrong david seymour

 

Re: oppression

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:47:37

In reply to oppression, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:41:42

oh.

i suppose the idea is that if we force adults to do maths when they are locked into teaching as a profession then it won't really make a difference. we can allow them to have maths qualifiations (it will bring up the qualifiations of nz overall) but it won't make a jot of difference to career trajectory or development or anything like that.

i mean to say.... the teenagers of the administrators and doctors and the like are still picked out for the jobs they are picked out for when they are children... and teaching adults maths isn't giong to change that at all.

it will look like the educational achievement level of new zealadn across the board has gone up -- but preserve our petty hierarchy the better with which to opporess the people.

they aren't quite sure what to do with teh word salad that is english.

will it help people write competent file notes?

the interesting thing about language is...

there are ways to signal that you aren't a f*ck*ng idiot.

that can't so well be faked.

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admissions essays...

the word salad they must get.

of course it's mostly just an elaborate hoax.

to get people working in the name of an ideology.

to try and obscure. to obscure. to conceal the fact that teh decisions are made on the basis of...

the administrators and elites. cheir children. becuase of who their children are. and they can try and pretend it's because they are smarter. with tehir better scores and so on. but they have the better scores because of who they are and not the other way around.

like how first year at Otago and Auckland is partly about parading the chosen elites a bit and everyone is supposed to be in awe of their intelligence (where they have been carefully schooled in all the correct answers -- been carefully provided with them over the years and in their current private special tutoring residential halls)

the lengths they go to to ensure that genuine growth and development does not occur.

to keep us all hostages of the elite miniority of inbred idiots.

 

Re: oppression

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:56:32

In reply to Re: oppression, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:47:37

i mean....

what else sort or kind of sense can we make of the fact that they simply refuse to give me the degree i completed.

to keep me out.

why do that?

why so committed to breaking the rules (of fairness and the like) to keep me out?

why so determined?

to exclude me

why so determined?

oh yeah. it's about the children.

do they treat the children well?

there appear to be groups (gangs if you will) of boys throwing tehir weight around. believing they can do anything with impunity because of who their parents are.

it appears they are right.

i keep thinking about how they pick a boy to be an actor or model in one of the stations for the medical interview at auckland.

what that's about.

what the message is there.

the boy they pick.

how the boy gets to be an actor in the station. interact with the applicant. in collusion with the person rating the applicant.

year one: your friend is thinking of dropping out of med because his dog is dying. what do you say to him?

year two: i will pay you money to give me the questions that you remember from the recent test. we are using them to tutor kids befor etheir test.

apparently they are doing the later. the med studnets. they run private tutoring stuff for the private halls. i'ts allowed by the university. theyfound a way to get in on the money for that, even

i didn't realise that the UMAT people, too, they say they aren't affiliated with them... but they allow it. and they invest (financially) in it. and they don't prevent their employees from doing it. so they get people paying for tutoring for the test. so they get people paying for a better grade i guess.

i guess some schools in teh US do that too. send graduates from the Uni to secondary schools and if the parents will pay tehm they can help them with their essays or whatever.

it's just a scam.

it's not working.

i just see the scam.

and i'm excluded because...

of a scummy scam.

tehre's nothing worth working towards because there's nothing there.

just a group of cheats.

do you want to join a group of cheats? people who got to be there only because of how much money their parents padi to cheat the system?

it isn't like you find.. peers. people like you in important respects.

unless you aspire to be a scummy cheat.

wrongful death. sexual violation. etc. that's what's motivating and inspiring about medicine -- right? all the kpeople you get to murder. by ommission if not by provision of service directly.

right?

why else all the lengths all the lengths all the lengths all the lengths they go to in order to keep good people out

all the lengths they go to to choose the youngest children they can find

all the lengths

 

Re: oppression

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:59:16

In reply to Re: oppression, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:56:32

not allowed to make milk powder unsupervised

coca cola is moving in now with the bottled water

nobody saw it coming

pollute the waterways: sell bottled water

microplastics for the win!!

 

Re: oppression

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:01:30

In reply to Re: oppression, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 16:59:16

you want to reconstitute the infant milk powder (there's no evidence that it's stunting development by nutritional deprivation) with water filled with nitrates and lead and...

you now...

like how it's been in developing nations since...

new zealadn likes to supply infant milk formula to developing nations that don't have clean drinkign water with which to reconstitute the powder.

developing nations like: new zealand

onbody saw it coming

couldn't go backwards any faster...

 

Re: oppression

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:07:32

In reply to Re: oppression, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:01:30

the notable absense / lack of...

water filtration. condensation. evaporation.

at any health conference or workshop.

there will be a stall of milo. because it's high in sugar and because it is a good mopper upper of sugar (with salts in it). they market it as a 'health food'.

and there will be a stall of infant milk powder.

there will be coca cola water bottled in plastic.

we never see water filtration systems.

i mean... it's fairly obvious that you could get people running their water through a known pollutant.

charcoal? does charcoal filter it in a way that cleans it -- or does the filtration medium introduce impurities? of course this is the obvious next iteration in the develoing backwards agenda.

why isn't there ever anything *good*?

the lengths they go to to force the people to flee new zealand.

keeping them moving keeping them moving keeping them moving

'leave us your stuff and move along. nothing to see. nothing here. nothing to see.'

rent out your property and flee...

where is my degree? where is my training place? where is my meaningful employment?

the lengths they go to have gone to all the money they've chosen to spend on keeping me oppressed.

did you know new zealand degrees depreciate in value upon graduation. depreciate and then are worth nothing 5 years post graduation. the knowledge falls out and the skills atrophy.

oh. turns out thats the rule they instituted for me. for my degree. for my application.

they refuse to apply the rules to me.

they choose to not apply teh rules to others.

all the teenagers that they choose to make exceptions for. pick them because they are exceptional. children are worth making exceptions for of course. best country in the world in which to be a pedophile.

 

the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:46:10

In reply to Re: oppression, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:07:32

i guess we will see the lengths they are willing to go to.

how many justices of new zealand are willing to be implicated in denial of the f*ck*ng obvious and refusal to uphold the laws of the land and refusal to find in the interests of justice.

 

Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:56:24

In reply to the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:46:10

i am *so glad* i did not apply to law school in nz. i thought about it...

and decided not. and then i did a class in statutory interpretation and... was glad that i decided not.

because there was a 'word salad' about it -- the way there is about 'critical reasoning'. where the idea seems to be, more, to jumble the grades up which has the effect that people who are generally smart and capable of reading comprehension start to doubt their capacity to understand.

because they are trying to find rhyme or reason in precedent judgements, i suppose. that would be like trying to pick out what the people who get into medicine have in common without knowing how much they paid the courts. i mean the medical school. i mean the university. i mean the testing people. i mean the courts. trying to find rhyme or reason...

law withotu a sense of justice...

medicine without a sense of health. wellbeing. flourishing for people.

just keeping the money going where the money goes...

of course it's not about the money at all.

it's about everything else.

oh mighty leader. we just sit about singing your praises all day.

 

Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:09:29

In reply to Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 17:56:24

and i know it's not about the math.

i know it's not for *other people's kids*

i have read manufacturers instructions and they make it *so easy even a doctor could do it*

for obvious reasons.

1. clean your data.

there we go. any research done on corrupted data is... word salad. waste of time.

boom. there goes stats.

2. assumptions.

carefully picked assumptions. ones likely to be false. to ensure the model isn't a good or useful model at all. worse... to lock us into a terrible trajectory. e.g., let's start out with the assumption that maaori will remain in conditions of deprivation unless we do x and y and z... then let's squabble and squawk about how we cannot do x and y and z. and then let's demonstrate committment to our model (we are not obsessed with achieving x and y and z) by keeping maaori oppressed and going 'see see see see see see see!!!'

3. workforce planning.

we just can't do it. we just can't let people make up their own minds. we inist on forcing children to do what we want them to do. we insist on treating adults as children. we refuse to allow adults an education because they won't comply with what degree we think right for them...

all the workforce planning...

they decide they will train x number of doctors. and they decide of that they need y number of gps and z number of orthopedic surgeons etc etc. and then it's all about forcing people to do what you want them to do because you think you know better than them what is needed.

and it's all about refusing to allow people to do what they want and forcing them to do what you want. beause you think you know better than them what is good for them. i mean you. i mean them. i mean you. i mean it is fun for you to force them to comply with what you want because you can. right?

all the micro-mis-managing. higher paychecks the worse people are at it. because, let's face it. it's about helping you helping you helping you helping me help myself to you. diverting the resources me-wards. because i know best and i know best for me what is good for me and what is good fo rme is that you give me all of your stuff and i tell you what to do. helping me helping me helping me help myself to you.

4. we don't know what's gonig to happen.

but we commit to a terrible trajectory and use that to justify our forcing people to comply with what we want. help myself to you...

5. 'you can't do x alex because imagine if everybody did x!!! that's unsustainable'.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. that's why you get to do x and i don't. that makes total sense in retard land.

they cannot understand that not everybody wants to do the same thing.

i mean... they wouldn't be intentionally marketing medicine as the top of the hierarchy where you aim for the top and settle for what you get unless... they were concerned that people might not view it in tha tway. they invest so much. so much. so much...

our national drama. longest standing one. is intentionally designed to teach the masses of new zealanders... that medicine is the top. and if you really make it in life you are manager or ce o fthe medicine.

we have invested so much...

in obstructing nad preventing people who might want to do it not because of all tha tbullshit. but in spite of or despite all tha tbullshit. the lengths we have gone to to prevent that. to ensure it appeals to people for the wrong reasons.

they just don't make any sense.

it only makes sense when you understand they are committed to all of the money and all of the power and they don't care anything at all about genuine growth or development. they don't even want to be leader of healthy happy productive people.

intersted in ruining things fo rus all

 

Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:17:31

In reply to Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:09:29

new zealand refuses to process any of my stuff.

refuses to process my enrolments

refuses to process my completions

refuses to process my applications

just refuses.

there's nothing working.

locked out. isolated. excluded.

'that's what you get for thinking that you know better than us how you are best to contribute to new zealand society. that is what you get for not complying with what we want you to do'

because...

it's arbitrary. right. you opportunistically do what you are told.

what you are told depends on what your parents did.

you do what you are told. and then you demonstrate your compliance.

and then you get to be the one to force other people to comply.

it's how we ensure we remain the most underproductive supposedly 'developed' (but clearly not) nation in the world.

apparently China is still 'developing' but new zealand is not 'developed'

how slow are our leaders, again?

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why are you so scathing alex?

because they refuse to listen to anything i say.

i started speaking simply and clearly and politely.

and i amplified and magnified as they refused to listen to anything i say.

everything needs to go over their heads.

everything does go over their heads.

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the justices of new zealand are capable of LSAT reasoning -- right?
'base the outcome of examination on reports of examiners'
'you are required to allow studnets the academic freedom to work to international standards of scholarship'
'domestic adults are eligible to be enrolled in programmes they have applied to'

discrimination is unlawful.

you don't get to throw away applications because you have chosen to enrol the teenagers whose parents paid the biggest bribes.

ffs

 

Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:31:05

In reply to Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:17:31

they fill the universities with teenagers in programmes they themselves consider 'low value'

they teach them to produce word salad output.

they teach them to plagarise (string together lecturers notes into essay format). they teach them to clean their data (make up data).

all to not pay the workers.

all to not pay the workers.

all so the government records a negative balance against the childs name (their student loan debt to the government) in exchange for low grades in a low value course where they only demonstrate their ability to comply with demands to produce doctored stats and word salad

and the government gives them not enough moeny to live off...

all to try and force them to work the planatations...

or sell methamphetamine and guns

prostitute themselves.

the lengths they go to...

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hey...

if you are going to force them to get into thousands of dollars of debt for a low value course..

you may as well not give them the degree either. just not give them the piece of paper.

what are they going to do about it??

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hey...

wouldn't it be more productive...

if we got them into trade school qualifications instead?

instead of teaching them to produce word salad we could get them building shacks to house themselevs in...

maybe even wiring up rudimentary electrical.

we could get them doing trade school stuff instead.

of course we don't ever have to actually give them the qualification.

or jobs.

but they'd be able to do things other than produce word salad...
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development trajectory of new zealand.

close down the universities and re-route people to trade-schools.

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the next development will be to close the trade-schools and re-route peple overseas.

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detention camp island.

the exclusion zone.

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is that what our leaders want?

it seems to be what they are busily working towards...

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where is my qualifiation?
for the work that i did?

i did 1 year of research in 2018.

i was informed that doing that would be enough for them to properly process my application to medical school.

i did the work...

it was required to go to external examiners for sign off.

they refused to allow external examienrs to sign me off.

they were required to allow external examienrs to sign me off.

they were required to properly process my application to medicine.

they said they were going to base it mostly on GPA and they provided the algorithm for calculating that. they were required to enter 8.6 into their f*ck*ng system and offer places to the top however many applicants that were ranked (with the possibility of PROMOTING maaori / refugee / pacifica).

i am certain that i would have been ranked high enough for offer of place.

and the lengths they have gone to in order to violate the laws and the regulations and refuse to do what their own rules that they wrote for themselves to follow required them to do.

they will not do it.

see...

the only reason they they told me they would consider me for med if i completed a 120 point program of study... was because they thought that the university councils of new zealand would have the opportunity to fiddle my grades down or refuse to get my thesis to externals to prevent sign off. in other words... they thought they could set me an impossible task (one impossible by design).

and then i'd be forced to... give up and comply with what they wanted me to do with my life.

which is keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep working. for no pay.

doing what?

i suppose they want me to teach critical reasoning.

get people beliving yes is no and up is down and black is white.

basiclaly just getting people to believe that they are forced to comply. t here is no alternative. they should be lucky for whatever scraps they are thrown. just putting up with a lifetime of deprivation. breeding gamma babies for cetain people to abuse and so on. that's the meaning of life -- right?

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of course they don't think.

nobody home.

 

and they get sick and...

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:36:23

In reply to Re: the lengths to ensure medicine is abusive, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:31:05

and what?

people get to abuse them for a while...

so they are telling my mother that she has blood cancer. they write a report that says it.

why would i believe that it's true?

what do they want to do?

likely nothing.

they'll just tell her that it's not surprising that she feels depressed. not like moving. just stay in bed. huddle. you are sick and will get progressively worse and immobilised. and let us know when you are ready to give all your money to us and go into a home and you'll get your jab and that will be the end of you. once we've got all of your stuff.

or...

they could destroy her immune system i guess. radiation and so on. they probably won't. because she's over 80. but they might choose to torture her like that.

usually they gofor the children. and people thikn it's the cancer that is responsible for the awful symptoms. not the treatment. the treatment is helping. the sickness is hurting.

maybe that.

what reason do we have to beleive any of it is true?

none.

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the government told the people they didn't find evidnce of lead in teh water.

the government told the people it wanted their blood now to look for it there.

the government told the people they didn't find evidence of lead in the blood.

the government will pay someone to tell the courts that lead in the blood isn't the kind of thing that it is possible to find evidecne for. or the water for that matter. word salad. dthigherfgjhjkdghjghdfhkjf l. correlation doesn't prove causation and there is no reason to believe smoking (or vaping) cause cancer. there is certainly no rason to believe that asbestos or any other government induced or created or forced exposure does anything to which teh government mgiht be accountable. that is the wrong kind of thing for there to be evidence of. word salad. thriotyherghfjghsdkljlkjldfj.

 

evidnece of *try*

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:36:59

In reply to and they get sick and..., posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:36:23

where is my degree?

where is my training place?

evidnce of *try*.

evidnece of *trying* to do the right thing?

 

recaltruent to the evidence

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:45:17

In reply to evidnece of *try*, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:36:59

that's the problem. that's what i see over and over and over and over and over...

people have already made up their minds.

they made up their minds on the basis of... they don't even remember. they don't know where or how they picked up that notion. but it's something that comes out of their mouths. quickly. reactively. their initial knee-jerk reaction.

it falls out of their mouth.

and then they are COMMITTED to being right.

and the lengths they will go to...

they will revise... everything else. in order to retain their committment to being right.

in a way that is delusional.

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that's always been a problem or trouble that i've had.
trying to do anything in new zealand.

people go 'no you can't'
and then they are committed.

and that's supposed to be an end to it.

they are very committted.
to them being right.

even when their knee jerk reactions are things they aren't qualified to have an opinion on.

even when their knee jerk reactions are matters that don't really impact at all on their lives (are no skin off their noses) but are so very very very imporant or impactful to someone not-them.

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and they decided about me that i don't get to do medicine.

and it's just an endless succession of excuses about why that's the case.

committed to 'no'.

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and they have the power to choose, to decide?

they aren' tsupposed to. there's supposed to be an objective algorithm.

but they think they know better.

and the choices they make?

well...

there's no shortage of wrongful death and sexual violation committed by the people they choose.

the people who are good at flattering and pandering to them. working for no pay.

 

Re: recaltruent to the evidence

Posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:47:28

In reply to recaltruent to the evidence, posted by alexandra_k on May 23, 2021, at 18:45:17

they reckon the only way to make it through is to be very young.
and not really know anything.
have big eyes.
and for them to think that your parents will throw hissy fits and withhold money if they don't let you though.
and then huddle in with the herd.

that's the only way.

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and young and inexperienced and ignorant as possible.

that's the only way.

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refusal to allow development


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